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@mdhughes
Okay, I got it. To disable the builtin com-quit in an application frame *f*:
(setf (command-enabled 'clim-internals::com-quit *f*) nil)
I'm not sure how cross @jackdaniel will be about me using that internal: How else would you do this?

The same could be done to global-command-table itself:
(remove-command-from-command-table 'clim-internals::com-quit (find-command-table 'global-command-table))

#clim #commonLisp
@dougmerritt @kentpitman

#lispyGopherClimate 000UTC Wed archives.anonradio.net/2024082 #archived
fallback 1: toobnix.org/w/gXLXQqxf5MYg1NDF
#climate #haiku by @kentpitman climatejustice.social/@kentpit
Being a writer, kmp & @amoroso

Fun electronic #music by @decibyte

#unix_surrealism by @prahou

#lisp .. my #clim fake #moo / mooclient week codeberg.org/tfw/moonclimb

#gopher .. My thoughts on some of @alex 's recent thoughts and doings.

See you in paradise sushi everyone. #lambdaMOO
telnet lambda.moo.mud.org 8888

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@screwtape

Still listening to this week's LispyGopher show. Now you're talking about whether CLIM is "about graphics" or "about present/accept".

Personally, I'd say these operate at different levels of abstraction so aren't in competition with one another.

One of the cool innovations of what was originally the Lisp Machine's "Dynamic Windows" and later became CLIM is this notion that present/accept are a very abstract way of saying that your program has stuff to give or receive without getting too into the weeds on how that will be done.

And yet when you render a specific presentation, it can't just be abstractly, you have to make concrete choices.

Graphics is one way to do it. Graphics offer a nice way to densely pack information in a way most of us have visual hardware to unpack efficiently.

Then again, one of my best friends is blind, and she'd likely dispute the efficiency of graphics as a way to communicate, and that's what's important about the presentation system--that it has rich enough understanding of what it's done that you could ask it, even after-the-fact, to re-present something in a different way that might be better accessible. And yet to do so in a way that doesn't say "different information needed to be presented", but merely "the information that got presented would be more helpful if it could be re-rendered based on different assumptions".

(Of course, it's been decades since I used CLIM. But I assume those kinds of things haven't changed much.)

toobnix.org/w/cYv47BY8FtprzhpH
#commonLisp #programming #detailed #intro to #ASDF and #CLIM in #emacs 18 minutes. Touches #CLOS.

This #video covers the #breadAndButter of programming in my view. I'll write this up later.

In the context of starting to draft #LAFS, but that's ancillary to the what-programming-actually-consists-of content. LAFS: lispy-gopher-show.itch.io/lisp

If you need 5 minutes of first steps in this direction first, I think this video satisfies that: toobnix.org/w/2WYHBTHGvRQ8pUSV

Breaking up my failures-to-build #peertube #live with my discovery of #clim using #lisp #emacs #orgmode #slime #HOWTO #toobnix

I really like this eight minute #CommonLisp #interactive #ui #video if I do say so myself.

toobnix.org/w/2WYHBTHGvRQ8pUSV

@adanskana @sachac @louis #everyone
can I ask for some opinions on the clim / emacs / lisp useage as conveyed by videos?

This is pretty much just what I really do when near a computer for eight minutes.
Playlist:
toobnix.org/w/p/4bRcULzg6bBAyE

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@jackdaniel (nonstop #clim / #mcclim questions)
While I can do something like this
(let ((man (find-frame-manager)) (frame (find-application-frame 'my-frame :execute nil)))
(with-look-and-feel-realization (man frame)
(make-pane 'label-pane :label "label")))
I'm not sure how I can use the pane I've made, and I didn't see an example of this in the McCLIM examples.

First baby steps towards a #veilid install, then using #emacs #orgmode #clim #mcclim #lisp together for what will later be my veilid internetworked first application.
Minimal example for clim application frames inside run from inside orgmode.

How can I start slime without the annoying new frame?
020 / #100daystooffload please tell me either here or #phloggersgarage #gopher #irc
gopher://tilde.club/0/~screwta
gopher.tildeverse.org/tilde.cl

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Mais un voyage est-il vraiment un #voyage sans une petite blague de la #SNCF ? Réception d'un texto : votre voiture est condamnée car la #clim est en #panne : débrouillez-vous pour vous placer ailleurs. Je me vois déjà debout entassé devant une porte pendant 2h. Évidemment, trop tard pour changer de billet. A l’arrivée du #train le contrôleur nous indique qu’il s’agit d’une erreur, qu’il doit le répéter à chaque station, mais que la clim marche très bien ! On n’aura pas plus d’explications 🤷🏼