Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hear-me.social/@debby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>debby</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@Stuxhost" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Stuxhost</span></a></span> well, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> is not using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> (unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a>) but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME on regular <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a>, which makes it way easier to setup in organizations as <em>"nit yet another server needed"</em> and also easier to comply with <em>mandatory <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/archival" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>archival</span></a> laws</em> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/business" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>business</span></a> use-cases.</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Session" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Session</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a>, like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WhatsApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WhatsApp</span></a>, do not have their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/backend" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>backend</span></a> opensourced nor allow <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> and demand <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> for registration if not useage for no valid reason. Plus they are not just able but obviously willing to snitch on their users (something neither DeltaChat nor monocles chat demand or even can as both do 100% <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the keys!)</p></li><li><p>As for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sustainability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sustainability</span></a>, monocles is financed by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subscribers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>subscribers</span></a> <a href="https://docs.monocles.eu/account/account/#account_types" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(they charge like €2 p.m. for mail &amp; chat)</a> and they can be paid <em>completely anonymously</em> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Monero" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Monero</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CashByMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CashByMail</span></a>!), whereas <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> is a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MoneyBurningParty</span></a> which engages in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scams</span></a> (see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>!) for no valid reason…</p></li></ul>