@dgar Love the variety of synonyms for "died"

Lessons to be learned -
• Boycott #proprietary software - use #FreedomRespecting software (a.k.a. #Libre / #OpenSource / #FreeSoftware) which is free of corporate control, and
• Boycott #centralized services - use #federated services so you aren't locked into one service.

#XMPP is still around, and thriving.
https://contrapunctus.codeberg.page/the-quick-and-easy-guide-to-xmpp.html

@debby #Mumble, #IRC, #XMPP (+OMEMO = @gajim / #monoclesChat) & #Linphone (#SIP / #VoIP) are the better options. #NextcloudTalk also exist and @monocles as well as @Stuxhost offer that.

• #Signal and #Session are #proprietary, #centralized, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider solutions!

• And #Matrix is just a shittier #XMPP+#OMEMO. Give @delta / #DeltaChat a try instead.

OfC #JitsiMeet and #WebCall are also great!

https://webcall.timur.mobi

@lukadjo @ApAlun @Crispius @fedilore @freeagent @vfrmedia

just an idea

(not an original one):

the problem with #algorithms on #centralized #socialMedia is that they can be manipulated

on the #fediverse why not have a menu of #openSource algorithms that anyone can write (audited so they are genuinely manipulation-free)?

people can freely choose one, and they can sink into their #algorithm stupor

if that's what they want

is there harm in that?

i'm not saying they *have* to do that

@elduvelle #Signal is #centralized - just like #Twitter, #WhatsApp, #Telegram, #Threema, etc - and therefore exactly as vulnerable to #enshittification. Its popularity also makes it a tempting target for backdoors.

I urge people to use #XMPP instead, which is #federated like the Fediverse and has no single point of failure. It uses the same end-to-end encryption algorithm as Signal.

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@signalapp It's not #disinfo when one points out that you demand #PII aka. #PhoneNumbers from Users and that is literally a architectural vulnerability, alongside your #proprietary & #Centralized #Infrastructure.

• #Signal being a #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider #Solution is literally the reason why I consider it #insecure.

Not to mention the lack of @torproject / #Tor support with an #OnionService or the willingness to fulfill #cyberfacist "Embargoes" or shilling a #Shitcoin #Scam named #MobileCoin!

• #KYC is the illicit activity!!!

And don't get me started on the #cyberfacism that is #CloudAct.

• If you were secure, criminals would've used your platform so hard, it would've been shutdown like #EncroChat and #SkyECC.

I may nit have allvthe.evidence yet, but #Signal stenches like #ANØM: #Honeypot-esque!

@ueeu I think crucial parts is looking at it's components, dependencies, size and for apps permissions.

• Also make shure it uses #OpenStandards, because #OpenSource can be just a "smoke grenade" when it's a #centralized, #proprietary, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider solution.

#ReproduceableBuilds for example are important, so the actually released source code is what people actually get served as basis.

• Both of the latter points are something that @monocles / #monoclesChat does perfectly and that @signalapp completely fails at!

Plus in terms of #security, choose *real #E2EE with #SelfCustody of all the #Keys!

@tshirtman @mloxton @tarheel @inthehands

agreed. in this regard, #socialMedia can be a force multiplier for good as well as what it is now: a force multiplier for #bigotry and #plutocracy

but that makes our communities a target

so we need something like #mastodon where we can squash the #trolls without the "fReEzEpEaCh!" #bigoted morons and #centralized #corporate social media indifference or tacit support for #ignorance and #hate

we need the #fediverse to grow

@Oneleggedjedi

Welcome.

It's not perfect here.

Nowhere is.

You'll find many others here in #sanctuary like yourself, and myself.

Together we can take #Mastodon beyond mere sanctuary and grow to kill #centralized #plutocrat #socialMedia.

I know, I know.

One can dream.

I need this dream. Many of us do.

We'll dream together.

@SearingTruth @hamishb @JapanProf

i disagree

if something is #decentralized it can't be taken over by #venturecapital

that's a huge difference in my view

you're worried about the dominant human sentiment

positive aspects of human sentiment can become dominant again in a system where #ignorance and #indecency is warded against, rather than amplified on purpose by #plutocrat agendas like on #centralized #socialmedia

a system like the #fediverse #mastodon *has* to grow

to save us

@moh_kohn except @signalapp too is a #centralized, #SingleVendir & #SingleProvider solution that fully falls under #CliudAct and thus CANNOT comply with #GDPR & #BDSG as a matter of principle since this digital rquivalent of #ExtraordinaryRendition is inherently incompatible!

• Use #XMPP+#OMEMO & #PGP/MIME with #SelfCustody if all the #Keys for real #EndToEndEncryption that doesn't rely on a #VC #MoneyBurningParty.

@monocles / #monoclesChat, @gajim / #gajim & @delta / #deltaChat, @thunderbird / #Thunderbird do support that!

@gooba42 @Harrybear @thebadastronomer

and #moderation

for #corporate #centralized #plutocrat #socialmedia moderation is a cost center. the imperative is to reduce cost

so they say "#freespeech"

aka: the most antifreedom #bigot can spew their mental vomit

doesn't matter: it's just about less mods to hire

furthermore #hate attracts #drama, drama attracts attention and emotional thrall

rotting our psychology, society, politics-

but

that thrall means they get to serve you more ads

@FediTips Yes but if you are only on one server, and your server goes down, you and your users are screwed, unless you are on every single blasted server! #centralized #disadvantages

@eloquence

this #whataboutism blows my mind

your rationale is the same as "sure russia invaded ukraine, but we can't go after them because usa and china are also bad"

#tiktok is rat poison

kill it

that #facebook is also rat poison and should also be killed has absolutely zero bearing on that

i cannot for the life of me comprehend this showboating on some sort of impotent high mindedness over tiktok, merely because other #centralized #socialmedia shit still exists

utterly alien and absurd

@fbievan

"what's most important to me is that the method by which #centralized #socialmedia is disposed of occurs according to the most high minded of principles"

do you understand the stakes here?

do you really?

do you understand what whataboutism is?

"well we can't punish russia for attacking ukraine, because usa and china are also bad"

what's wrong with that statement?

do you see?

fuck #facebook

but defending #tiktok because facebook still exists is utterly clueless impotent bullshit