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Csepp 🌢<p>"<a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/Flow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Flow</span></a> was made entirely with <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/Blender" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Blender</span></a> and rendered with EEVEE. Each frame took from about 0.5 – 10 seconds to render in 4k. We didn’t use a renderfarm. The final render was done on my PC. There was no compositing, all the colors were tweaked and adjusted using shaders."</p><p>Nice to see some <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/frugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>frugalComputing</span></a> in theatrical <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/3D" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>3D</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/animation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>animation</span></a>, intentional or not. :neofox_uwu:</p><p><a href="https://www.blender.org/user-stories/making-flow-an-interview-with-director-gints-zilbalodis/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">blender.org/user-stories/makin</span><span class="invisible">g-flow-an-interview-with-director-gints-zilbalodis/</span></a></p>
Earthshine opsec is clean<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://metroholografix.ca/@sb" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>sb</span></a></span> THANK YOU! </p><p>Bring Back <a href="https://hackers.town/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a> !</p>
Bhavani Shankar 💭<span class="h-card"><a class="u-url mention" href="https://social.coop/@smallcircles" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>smallcircles</span></a></span> it doesn't make sense from a <a class="hashtag" href="https://fe.disroot.org/tag/sustainability" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sustainability</a> pov to <a class="hashtag" href="https://fe.disroot.org/tag/selfhost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#selfhost</a> everything just for yourself. It's better to join and financially support an existing instance that you trust or self host for a group of friends and family. <br><br><a class="hashtag" href="https://fe.disroot.org/tag/frugalcomputing" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#frugalcomputing</a>
Karsten Schmidt<p>Giving this whole (maybe weekly) <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/LinkDump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LinkDump</span></a> thing a go (in lieu of [and so far successfully escaping] writing newsletters)</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/Networks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Networks</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/Protocols" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Protocols</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Privacy</span></a></p><p>Guide to securing your digital life and protecting your privacy<br><a href="https://digital-defense.io" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">digital-defense.io</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Computer Networks From Scratch<br><a href="https://www.networksfromscratch.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">networksfromscratch.com</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Obsidian notes about 100s of network concepts/topics<br><a href="https://notes.networklessons.com/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">notes.networklessons.com/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Protocols for synchronisable data stores<br><a href="https://willowprotocol.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">willowprotocol.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br><a href="https://earthstar-project.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">earthstar-project.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br><a href="https://try.st.imu.li/projects/vernode/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">try.st.imu.li/projects/vernode</span><span class="invisible">/</span></a> (via <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fedi.imu.li/users/tryst" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tryst</span></a></span>)</p><p>Social web translator (HTML, JSON, ActivityStreams, Atom, RSS etc.)<br><a href="https://granary.io/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">granary.io/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/CollapseComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CollapseComputing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/VM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VM</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/ConcatenativeProgramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ConcatenativeProgramming</span></a></p><p>The Collapsible Project<br><a href="https://wiki.collapsible.systems" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">wiki.collapsible.systems</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>CollapseOS &amp; DuskOS<br><a href="http://collapseos.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://</span><span class="">collapseos.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br><a href="https://duskos.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">duskos.org</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>tiny-ps — Web component to display PostScript inside HTML <br><a href="https://github.com/bellenuit/tiny-ps" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">github.com/bellenuit/tiny-ps</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br><a href="https://belle-nuit.com/my-journey-to-postscript" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">belle-nuit.com/my-journey-to-p</span><span class="invisible">ostscript</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/ESP32" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ESP32</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/EPaper" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EPaper</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/Meshtastic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Meshtastic</span></a></p><p>ESP32-S3 w/ 4.7" touchscreen E-paper display<br><a href="https://docs.m5stack.com/en/core/papers3" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">docs.m5stack.com/en/core/paper</span><span class="invisible">s3</span></a></p><p>Lilygo T5 E-Paper S3 Pro<br><a href="https://lilygo.cc/products/t5-e-paper-s3-pro" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">lilygo.cc/products/t5-e-paper-</span><span class="invisible">s3-pro</span></a></p><p>Lilygo T-Deck Plus (Meshtastic, GPS, 2000mah battery)<br><a href="https://lilygo.cc/products/t-deck-plus-1" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">lilygo.cc/products/t-deck-plus</span><span class="invisible">-1</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/Art" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Art</span></a></p><p>Community (and partially solar) powered online E-ink art frame<br><a href="https://www.omniframe.art/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">omniframe.art/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Upcoming exhibition @ ZKM Karlsruhe which will also include a custom version of my own DeFrag piece<br><a href="https://zkm.de/en/2025/04/the-story-that-never-ends" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">zkm.de/en/2025/04/the-story-th</span><span class="invisible">at-never-ends</span></a></p><p>Zimoun's sound architectures, installations &amp; sculptures — always an inspiration on many levels...<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx4Kx6R7nv0" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">youtube.com/watch?v=xx4Kx6R7nv</span><span class="invisible">0</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.thi.ng/tags/TechCommentary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechCommentary</span></a></p><p>Kill the “User”: Musings of a disillusioned technologist<br><a href="https://www.pastagang.cc/blog/kill-the-user/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">pastagang.cc/blog/kill-the-use</span><span class="invisible">r/</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>I was interviewed by the Spanish progressive magazine CTXT, on the environmental consequences of the AI hype. </p><p>"Si la IA generativa es útil o no es irrelevante. Podría ser extremadamente útil, pero si hace que el planeta arda, no es buena".</p><p><a href="https://ctxt.es/es/20250201/Politica/48565/Elena-de-Sus-entrevista-Wim-Vanderbauwhede-IA-deepseek-medioambiente.htm" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ctxt.es/es/20250201/Politica/4</span><span class="invisible">8565/Elena-de-Sus-entrevista-Wim-Vanderbauwhede-IA-deepseek-medioambiente.htm</span></a></p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a> <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/generativeAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>generativeAI</span></a> <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/ClimateEmergency" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ClimateEmergency</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>How the AI hype is pushing up emissions -- even if it never delivers. </p><p><a href="https://wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.page/articles/the-real-problem-with-AI/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.pag</span><span class="invisible">e/articles/the-real-problem-with-AI/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/frugalcomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>frugalcomputing</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ai</span></a> <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/generativeAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>generativeAI</span></a><br><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/DataCenters" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DataCenters</span></a></p>
smallsolar<p>I feel a little bit foolish, I run a solar powered server which provides a <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mastodon</span></a> instance, a <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/bittorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bittorrent</span></a> client and a <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/gitea" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gitea</span></a> server. During the winter it's only online for fairly short periods of time depending on the sun.<br>Ive got some markdown files on the gitea server which I edit using the website, I therefore have to wait for the sunshine before i can do this, it can be a little annoying if the timing doesn't line up with my day schedule.</p><p>I have only just clicked that it's <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/git" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>git</span></a> so I can clone to my laptop, edit to my hearts content and then push it back when the server is online. Honestly completely forgot this key function. Git (or other similar systems) are ideal for a <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/solarpunk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>solarpunk</span></a> <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/frugalcomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>frugalcomputing</span></a> approach, the server doesn't need to be online all day as it's not actually doing much in between, I can work separately. I wonder if this model could be applied to our parts of our day to day work</p>
Wim🧮<p>I wrote article about the (financial) cost of generative AI inference:</p><p>"Cheaper AI does not mean greener AI"</p><p>tl;dr: the capex of the servers dominates so there is not much incentive to save on energy use.</p><p><a href="https://wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.page/articles/cheaper-ai-is-not-greener-ai/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.pag</span><span class="invisible">e/articles/cheaper-ai-is-not-greener-ai/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>What with DeepSeek and all, let me re-up this article I wrote barely more than a week ago about how the AI hype is leading to increased electricity use even if it never delivers. </p><p><a href="https://wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.page/articles/the-real-problem-with-AI/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.pag</span><span class="invisible">e/articles/the-real-problem-with-AI/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p>
Earth Notes<p>RSS Podcast Feed Inefficiency - Climate cost of handling feeds ineptly... <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/RSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RSS</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/podcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>podcast</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/LowCarbonComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LowCarbonComputing</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/greenSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>greenSoftware</span></a> - <a href="https://www.earth.org.uk/RSS-efficiency.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">earth.org.uk/RSS-efficiency.ht</span><span class="invisible">ml</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>I wrote a new article:</p><p>"The real problem with the AI hype"</p><p><a href="https://wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.page/articles/the-real-problem-with-AI/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.pag</span><span class="invisible">e/articles/the-real-problem-with-AI/</span></a></p><p>tl;dr: even if the AI hype falls flat, it will have caused emissions to go up considerably.</p><p>The article has the best estimate I have been able to arrive at for the growth in global emissions from AI data centres.</p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>Coda: the figures in the above thread are quite handwavy. I did a more nuanced analysis and will write up an article about it. The results are a little less dramatic but the overall conclusion remains the same: the AI hype is resulting in increased emissions even if it does not deliver on its promises. And this at a critical time when emissions must come down urgently and drastically.</p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>Compared to GPT-4 or Gemini, these are tiny models that do not require huge amounts of compute, memory or storage. Where GPT-4 is more than a trillion parameters (10^12), a typical CNN for medical applications (*) is of the order of tens of millions of parameters (10^7). So it needs a hundred thousand times fewer resources. And many of the ML techniques that do not use neural networks, like SVM or random forest, are even smaller than that. (2/2)</p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>Needless to say, 100x growth would be a disaster: it would mean the data centres alone would consume 50,000 TWh/year. That would be 24 GtCO2e, so purely the emissions from making the servers would double of the global emissions budget to meet the climate targets. And that is without even taking into account the embodied carbon of all that infrastructure. (5/5)</p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>If you think that all sounds crazy, the UK government has just said we need to increase the UK's AI research compute capacity by 20x in five years. Dell’s CEO has said that global data centre capacity must increase by 100x over the next 10 years. And OpenAI's Altman has said the world need 100x more GPUs production capacity, which amounts to the same. <br>And even if none of this happens, the damage is already being done.<br>(4/5)</p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>To put some figures on this: the current global data centre capacity is 55GW, which means 482 TWh/year. Global electricity generation is 30,000 TWh/y. Production of chips for data centres is currently around 21 TWh/y.</p><p>Suppose this grows by 10x in ten years (that is about 25% per year and is within current projections). Then we get 4820 TWh for the data centres and 210 for the chips so 5000 TWh or an extra 2.4 GtCO2e (on a total global CO2 budget of 12 GtCO2e). (3/5) </p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>* This in turn means electricity generators are not phasing out fossil fuel generation as they want to maximise generation capacity to maximise future profits. And so global emissions from electricity generation are not decreasing at all, quite to the contrary: new fossil fuel powered electricity plants are being developed as a result and mothballed ones are brought back on line. (2/5)</p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>The real problem with the current AI hype is not "AI" in itself but what it is causing: </p><p>* The hype creates an expectation of huge growth in demand. Data centre companies have to start building capacity before this demand is realised, even if it never realises. As a result, data centre capacity is being built up right now at an unprecedented scale. <br>* This requires electricity generators to provision capacity for those future data centres, even if they are never used. (1/5)</p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>(6/5) Addendum: what about the end user device? I had assumed silently that this was a phone and so negligible; but suppose it is an average TV (40"), then the power consumption is about 50W, and that would result in 16 gCO2e, which is still much less than the 450 gCO2e of a 10,000- word GPT-4 query.<br><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p>
Wim🧮<p>How does a query to GPT-4 compare to driving a car?</p><p>A single query to GPT-4 with a 10,000-word answer size produces 450 gCO2e (*). An average UK car produces 132 gCO2e/km. So this query is equivalent to driving a car 3.4 km. </p><p><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrugalComputing</span></a></p><p>(*) <a href="https://wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.page/articles/google-search-vs-chatgpt-emissions/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.pag</span><span class="invisible">e/articles/google-search-vs-chatgpt-emissions/</span></a> and assuming 100 words for the queries in that article; in reality it is probably closer to 30 words, but I prefer to be conservative. <br>Car stats from <a href="https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/average-co2-emissions-car-uk" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">nimblefins.co.uk/average-co2-e</span><span class="invisible">missions-car-uk</span></a></p>