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"Josh #Hawley and John #Kennedy derail Senate hearing on sports betting with anti-trans bigotry...gambling addiction experts have taken notice of bankruptcies, lost homes and ruined relationships stemming from unhealthy gambling habits. Along with that, college athletes have faced death threats and other forms of abuse from angry fans upset over lost bets."

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MSNBC · Josh Hawley and John Kennedy derail Senate hearing on sports betting with anti-trans bigotryBy Ja'han Jones

Senators are privately (and publicly) saying they hope Donald Trump
💥stays out of the internal election to replace #Mitch #McConnell as Senate GOP leader.

Why it matters:
None of them know — or it's a damn good secret — whether the felon-candidate will make an endorsement.

But senators and advisors fear a Trump intervention could turn the secret ballot leader election into a public feud.

"I said, 'Sir, if I was you, I would stay out of the race, because there's no win for you in this,'" Sen. #Markwayne #Mullin (R-Okla.) told us about a recent call with Trump.

"I hope not," said Sen. #Thom #Tillis, when asked if he thinks Trump will weigh in. "I think outside influence could be problematic."

"He's offered some views on it to me,"Sen. #Josh #Hawley (R-Mo.) told us. "It's safe to say he has a pretty consistent prediction of who he thinks it'll be." -- Hawley said he did not know if Trump would weigh in.

Between the lines:
This the first real competitive Senate GOP leadership race of the Trump-era,
and his endorsement still carries a lot of weight with a segment of the conference.

McConnell has had a tumultuous relationship with the pussy-grabber.

The top two candidates
— Sens. John #Thune and John #Cornyn
— each have had rocky relationships with Trump.
However, they have worked to make amends.

After Jan. 6, Thune denounced Trump and initially endorsed Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) for president.

Cornyn has said the GOP needed to move on from Trump.

Senate sources do not talk about Sen. Rick #Scott's (R-Fla.) bid as seriously as Thune's or Cornyn's, though he has a good relationship with Trump.
"Sen. Scott is focused on dramatically changing the way the Senate operates and creating a member-driven process," according to spokesperson McKinley Lewis.

Sources often describe Thune as the likely favorite,
though they say not to discount how much Cornyn's long history of hard-dollar fundraising for Senate campaigns means to people.

Cornyn told us it's been a few weeks since he spoke with Trump about the leadership race.

But he visited Mar-a-Lago a couple months ago "to talk about planning for the future,"
adding they've been "visiting with some of the transition folks."

Mullin said Trump "likes" Thune despite their rocky past.

The Oklahoma Republican has publicly backed Thune.

Some sources suspect there could be a late entry:
NRSC Chair Steve #Daines (R-Mont.) is the most-floated name.

The bottom line:
There's not a lot of incentive for senators benefiting from both Thune and Cornyn's aggressive fundraising efforts to commit too early.

"If one of them felt that they really had a majority, I think they would not be shy about saying that,
but I don't think anybody does," Hawley said.

axios.com/2024/10/03/trump-sen

Axios · Trump fear factor hits Senate GOPBy Stef W. Kight
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Stephen Wolfe grew up in Napa, California,
and his father was an admirer of the right-wing pundit and erstwhile GOP presidential candidate Pat Buchanan.

After attending West Point and serving in the Army, Wolfe earned advanced degrees before leaving academia to
“do the Wendell Berry thing”
in North Carolina with his wife and four kids.

Over the summer, Wolfe, 41, agreed to speak with me on the condition that I refer to him as “Dr. Wolfe”
and call him an “expert on Christian nationalism.”

The Dr. Wolfe I spoke with was a more muted version of the firebrand I’d watched online.

He said his ideal version of America would be led by a Caesar figure.

Gay marriage would be strictly prohibited.

Women would not be allowed to vote
—instead, men would vote for their households.

When I brought up the bit from his book about heretics being killed, he grew annoyed.

“I do think it’s permissible, in principle, for a state to suppress theological heresy,
but that doesn’t mean that it’s prudent or proper,
suitable in every circumstance or every tradition or way of life.”

The Founding Fathers, he added, had encouraged religious liberty,
so killing heretics would not be appropriate in the United States that we inhabit.

We turned to remarks he had made at a recent conference convened by Brian Sauvé:
“I think we need to reflect on this idea of Judeo-Christianity,
or Judeo-Christian worldview,
or Judeo-Christian whatever,
and really eradicate that from our thinking.

Because if we say that America is a
Judeo-Christian country,
then it can’t be a Christian country, okay?”

What role, I asked him, would Jews play?

After a deep sigh, he told me that they would be allowed to “exercise their religion freely.”

We spoke a week before Vance’s RNC speech,
and Wolfe’s remarks helped me understand what the TheoBros heard in Vance’s phrase about
"America as a people".

The founders, Wolfe noted, intended for their country to be “Anglo-Protestant with an American inflection.”

America, he continued, is “a place of settlement and rootedness,
but it’s an open ethnicity in which people can become one of us.”

Which is to say that, like some others, Wolfe is not necessarily opposed to the idea of nonwhite people in America
—as long as they agree to assimilate to the Anglo-Protestant dominant culture.

In this telling, America is not a pluralistic society at all,
but rather one in which there exists an uneasy truce between Christians and those they reluctantly tolerate.

Toward the end of our conversation, I asked Wolfe what motivated him.

“I want Christians to be more assertive and to recognize the Christian heritage of the American way of life,
and to seek to restore that,” he said.

“This is a Christian country, and we’ve got to work to restore it to what it once was"

In his keynote address at Sauvé’s conference, titled “Why Multicultural Pluralism Fails and What to Build Instead,”
Wolfe called the concept of America as a melting pot
“an early 20th-century idea cooked up by a Jew in New York who despised the confident Anglo-Protestant establishment.”

WASPs were the “distinct ethnicity” of America, he insisted,

and America should only welcome those who aspired to assimilate.

As he put it, “This is our homeland, and we welcome you on the condition of conformity.”

Or, in the words of JD Vance, America “is a group of people.”

motherjones.com/politics/2024/

Mother JonesTo understand JD Vance, you need to meet the “TheoBros”These extremely online young Christian men want to end the 19th Amendment, restore public flogging, and make America white again.
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William Wolfe served in the Trump administration
both as the deputy assistant secretary of defense
and as director of House affairs at the Department of State.

He is also an alumnus of #Heritage #Action,
a sister organization of the Heritage Foundation,
the arch-conservative think tank behind Project 2025,
whose chief architect, Russell Vought, posted on X that he was “proud to work with @William_E_Wolfe on scoping out a sound Christian Nationalism.”

A few months later, the Bucks County Beacon uncovered a lengthy online manifesto on the goals of Christian nationalists.

The document, which listed Wolfe and Joel Webbon as contributing editors
and Oklahoma Sen. #Dusty #Deevers as a co-author,
called for “civil magistrates” to usher in 💥“the establishment of the Ten Commandments as the foundational law of the nation.”

The manifesto doesn’t specify exactly how Christian nationalists should achieve these goals.

As Tabachnick, the extremism researcher, interprets it, the TheoBros are imagining a utopia where “they are going to be free to be entrepreneurs in all different senses,
including the tech world that they’re mixing with so freely.”

The key, she said, is that authoritarianism “is required to have the utopian vision.”

Last year, the extremism watchdog group Right Wing Watch posted a video of Wolfe quoting a scripture passage.
There are times when “even the God of peace proclaims by his providence, ‘to arms!’” he says.

“If we have ever lived in a point of time in American history since then that we could argue that now is a time ‘to arms’ again, I think we are getting close.”

William Wolfe’s Christian nationalism manifesto made the rounds on social media,
but in mainstream conservative outlets,
it was #Stephen #Wolfe
(no relation to William)
who brought TheoBro ideas to the wider world.

In his book, which was praised by editors at the Federalist and the American Conservative,
Wolfe paints America as a “#gynocracy” whose government and culture have been feminized by unhappy women leaders.
(Sound familiar?)

He has stated on X that women should not have the right to vote, and that “interethnic” marriage can be “sinful.”

#Andrew#Isker#Torba
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One eager customer is 38-year-old TheoBro #Andrew #Isker
—the pastor who interned at Wilson’s church,
studied divinity at New Saint Andrews,
and co-wrote a book on Christian nationalism with #Andrew #Torba,
the openly antisemitic CEO of the social media platform #Gab.

In July, Isker announced on X that he planned to move his family of seven to lead a church in a New Founding community in Tennessee.

Life in his native Minnesota, he said, had become untenable because of permissive laws around trans rights and abortion,
not to mention how hospitable the state has been to #refugees.

“Minnesota is one of the top destinations for resettling foreign people hostile to our way of life,” he said.

That month, Isker spoke at a Texas conference about the
“war on white America”
alongside #Paul #Gottfried,
the mentor of prominent white nationalist #Richard #Spencer.

The conference was hosted by the "True Texas Project",
a far-right group with ties to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton.

Like many TheoBros,
Isker sees much to like in Vance.

In early July, before Trump announced his running mate, Isker referred to him as
“Senator JD Vance (R-Heritage America).”

In late July, he posted a video of Vance and told his 29,000 followers,
“You need to double down on childless cat lady discourse.
Kamala sees happy, large families and hates them.
She wants them destroyed.
She wants you to never be able to have this.
She is a nasty, bitter harridan who hates all that is true, good, and beautiful.”

One problem is that there simply are not enough TheoBros to populate Christian communities like the one Isker plans to move to.

Enter #William #Wolfe,
the founder of the
"Center for Baptist Leadership", which aims to persuade members of the Southern Baptist Convention that it,
the largest of all Protestant denominations in the United States,
has fallen prey to the corrupting forces of liberalism.

Baptists are only the beginning.

Wolfe wants to win over the entire evangelical mainstream,
which he and other TheoBros refer to as “#Big #Eva.”

In August, he posted on X,
“Once you realize that Big Eva thinks it’s a bigger sin to desire to preserve the customs, heritage, values, and cultural homogeneity of your own nation
than to kill the unborn in the womb, you can better understand their moral framework.”

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An even more well-connected Wilson emulator is
#Josh #Abbotoy,
executive director of "American Reformer"
and managing partner of a venture capital fund and real estate firm called "New Founding".

A former fellow of the right-wing think tank the #Claremont #Institute, Abbotoy reported that he recently participated in a #Project2025 presidential transition “strategic planning session”
hosted by the right-wing think tank the #Heritage #Foundation.

Bucks County Beacon reporter Jennifer Cohn revealed venture capitalist #Chris #Buskirk was listed as the editor and publisher.

In 2022, Buskirk co-founded the #Rockbridge #Network,
a collection of powerful Trump donors including Catholic judicial kingmaker #Leonard #Leo and Silicon Valley billionaire #Peter #Thiel.

Another co-founder of the Rockbridge Network?
None other than
JD #Vance.

Thiel, Vance’s mentor and former employer, is also a major funder of the National Conservatism movement.

Obsessed with global birthrates, Thiel spent $10 million on his protégé’s successful 2022 Senate campaign.

In July, shortly after Trump had announced Vance as his running mate,
Cohn surfaced a tweet by New Founding’s network director,
#Josh #Clemans:
a photo of Vance with several New Founding staffers.

The caption read “Our guy.”

New Founding lists as a partner the "Society for American Civic Renewal",
a secretive fraternal order founded by Indiana shampoo baron #Charles #Haywood,

who describes himself as an aspiring Christian “#warlord.”

According to founder #Nate #Fischer, New Founding wants to “form the backbone of a renewed American regime”
and that its members
“understand the nature of authority and its legitimate forceful exercise.”

But its main public-facing project appears to be turning tracts of land in Appalachia into Christian communities.

Promotional materials describe a community of
“unmatched seclusion”
where
“simple country faith”
protects local culture from rainbow flags and crime.

Potential buyers, he advises, should not delay.

“Who’s going to grab the land?
Is it going to be good, based people who want to build something inspiring,
something authentic to the region’s history,
or is it going to be Bill Gates and BlackRock and hippies from California?”

#Brian#Sauvé#Mefferd
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In August, Joel Webon remarked on his show that “a lot of people are gonna be surprised” when
“you’re spending eternity worshipping Christ next to Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee and Jonathan Edwards,
and, you know, George Whitefield and Martin Luther King Jr.’s in hell.”

Webbon is so impressed by his own audacity that he maintains an online list of all the controversies in which he’s become embroiled.

There, he explains why he called Christian men living in California “stupid”

(they could just move to a red state);

why he once ordered his wife to stop reading a book on theology

(he didn’t want her exposed to beliefs that were different from his own);

and why he believes in a patriarchal household structure

(the Bible says so).

Webbon, who is planning to host a conference in Texas next spring called
“Christ Is King: How to Defeat Trashworld!”
maintains that a
“return to the Constitution is impossible”
and that the only viable alternative is the Ten Commandments.

Some of Wilson’s other acolytes are attempting to create their own versions of Moscow, Idaho.

Take #Brian #Sauvé, a 33-year-old Christian recording artist, podcaster, and pastor of "Refuge Church" in Ogden, Utah.

Like Webbon, Sauvé wasn’t always reformed
—Refuge began as a charismatic Christian church.

After the lead pastor resigned in a scandal, the then-24-year-old Sauvé ascended to take his place,
immersed himself in reformed theology,
and moved the church in a new direction.

Today, he presides over a Moscow-esque ecosystem:
a publishing house called "New Christendom Press",
as well as "St. Brendan’s Classical Christian Academy",
modeled after those in Wilson’s network.

“Can you feel it in the sails?” reads St. Brendan’s website.

“The stiff breeze out of Moscow, Idaho? -- We can.”

On his three podcasts and to his more than 53,000 followers on X, Sauvé regularly states that women’s primary function is to bear children.

In July, after Vance’s comments about “childless cat ladies who are miserable” began widely circulating,
he posted:
“It is desperately sad to think of all the intentionally barren women who will find themselves totally alone in their 50s,
realizing their irreversible mistake.

They will wish they could trade it all
—money, vacations, independence, all of it
—for children they can now never have.”

But unlike more mainstream conservatives,
Sauvé does not even pretend to champion the idea of a
Judeo-Christian nation.

He posted in July, “[O]ur political system is heavily influenced by Jews who reject Christ and embrace all manner of evils.”

#Mefferd#Joel#Webbon
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In subsequent videos, Douglas Wilson tackled women’s culpability in rape,
the dark side of empathy,
and the virtues of “something called the patriarchy
—that which, according to our
soi-disant and lisping political theorists, must be smashed...
Only they say something like ‘thmasth.’”

Wilson has used his platforms to anoint the next generation of ultraconservative reformed Christian pastors,
all of whom happened to be men.

#Mefferd, the conservative Christian journalist, told me that Wolfe’s "The Case for Christian Nationalism"
got traction in mainstream Christian circles in part
“because Doug Wilson endorsed.”

Another Wilson protégé is #Joel #Webbon, a 38-year-old pastor who hosts a podcast and YouTube show,
which he films from a wingback leather chair in a book-lined room.

Webbon wasn’t always reformed
— he is an alumnus of a Bible school run by a New Apostolic Reformation affiliated outfit,
— which he now considers “straight-up heretical.”

In his 20s, he broke from the group, moved to Texas, and started his own church.

In a video from a few years ago, Webbon credited Wilson with emboldening him to say whatever he wanted
—like telling a guest that the Founding Fathers weren’t responsible for the slave trade because Africans had done the actual kidnapping and enslaving.

For Webbon, it was intensely liberating to watch Wilson speak in public without worrying about being canceled.

“You stay in your little corner, you stay on your little leash, because you’re like, I don’t know what will happen,” Webbon said.

“But when you see some other guy do it, and you’re like
—that’s the worst thing that can happen?

Vice writes an article about you? [Christianity Today editor-in-chief] Russell Moore won’t invite you to his birthday party anymore?
Like, that’s it.”

At a recent conference, he registered dismay over immigrants in his community.

“It’s like full, straight-up Hindu garb at our neighborhood swimming pool,
that my daughter is asking [about and] I’m trying to explain.”
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Douglas Wilson's influence over Moscow Idaho has not been without controversy.

In a 2021 Vice exposé, former members of "Christ Church" alleged that ministers had encouraged them to stay in abusive relationships.

That tracks with Wilson’s 1999 book, "Fidelity: How to Be a One-Woman Man",
in which he wrote,

“The sexual act cannot be made into an egalitarian pleasuring party.
A man penetrates, conquers, colonizes, plants.
A woman receives, surrenders, accepts.”

For that reason, Wilson wrote, the dynamic of a #dominant #man and a #submissive #woman is
“an erotic necessity.”

(Wilson called allegations of the church urging women to stay in abusive relationships “categorically false.”)

Wilson has also promoted another form of dominance.

In the 1996 book "Southern Slavery: As It Was",
Wilson and his co-author argued that the master-slave dynamic was “a relationship based upon mutual affection and confidence,”
-- and “there has never been a multi-racial society which has existed with such mutual intimacy and harmony in the history of the world” as that of the antebellum South.

(In a 2020 blog post, Wilson said he now allows that while “the benevolent master is not a myth, the idea of the horrific taskmaster is no abolitionist myth either.”)

When I asked Wilson about his controversial statements, he likened himself to a chef who strategically deploys jalapeno peppers:

“Then some of my enemies online have combed through my writings, have gathered up all the jalapenos and put them on one Ritz cracker.”

In July, at the "National Conservatism Conference"
in Washington, DC, Wilson shared the stage with Sens. Josh #Hawley (R-Mo.),
Ron #Johnson (R-Wis.),
and Mike #Lee (R-Utah),
as well as #Vance,
who auditioned his “America is a people” bit a week before his star turn at the GOP convention.

Wilson agrees with Vance’s suggestion that children should be allotted votes
-- managed by their parents.

“I would like to see elections where households vote,” he told me.

Men, as the heads of households, would actually cast the votes.

Though he believes that women’s suffrage was “a mistake,”
he would allow a special exception for single mothers.

Wilson offered the crowd a few one-liners
(“I’m a Presbyterian, not a Lesbyterian”),

but mostly, he talked about the persecution of Christians:

“It used to be that the sexually troubled had to keep their kinks hidden away in the closet,” he mused.

“Now it is the conservative Christian who needs to keep his virtues hidden in the recesses of the closet.”

After the "National Conservatism Conference", Wilson appeared at the "Believers’ Summit",
which was headlined by #Trump and hosted by the conservative political group #Turning #Point #USA.

But it’s not just conferences and interviews with the likes of #Tucker #Carlson where Wilson promotes his ideas.

He has a blog, a podcast, and a YouTube channel, thanks mostly to the urging of his children and younger colleagues.

One example is that every year since 2018, Wilson has been celebrating what he calls
No Quarter November:

“The month where we say out loud what everyone is thinking.”

In a 2023 video, which was the brainchild of one of his sons, Wilson sits at a sumptuously appointed Thanksgiving table,
surrounded by his children and grandchildren,
and addresses the camera.

“If you think of my blog as a shotgun,” he says,
“this is the month when I saw off all my typical, careful qualifications and blast away with a double-barreled shorty.”

His wife, clad in an apron, brings out a turkey and places it in front of him,
and then the tranquil scene is interrupted by a blaring alarm and a glowing red “perimeter breach” sign.

Wilson excuses himself, heads to his garage, and straps on a #flamethrower.

After using it to light a cigar, he aims the fire at cardboard cutouts of Disney princesses Elsa and Ariel, and the logos of Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and Netflix.

Wilson’s willingness to make campy content sets him apart, says Rachel Tabachnick,
an extremism researcher who has been studying Christian nationalism for decades.

“Instead of a crotchety old guy talking about stoning people, he’s like, super cool,” she says. “He’s witty.”

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Part of why people have trouble describing this
"New Right" is because it’s a bunch of people who believe that the system that organizes our society and government,
which most of us think of as normal,
is actually bizarre and insane.

Which naturally makes them look bizarre and insane to people who think this system is normal.

You’ll hear these people talk about our globalized consumerist society as “clown world.”

You’ll often hear the worldview expressed by our media and intellectual class described as
“the matrix” or the
“Ministry of Truth,”
as Thiel described it in his opening keynote speech to NatCon.

It can be confusing to turn on something like the influential underground podcast "Good Ol Boyz"
and hear a figure like #Anton talk to two autodidact Southern gamers about the makeup of the regime,

if only because most people reading this probably don’t think of America as the kind of place that has a regime at all.

But that’s because,
as many people in this world would argue,
we’ve been so effectively propagandized
that we can’t see how the system of power around us really works.

This is not a conspiracy theory like QAnon,
which presupposes that there are systems of power at work that normal people don’t see.

This is an idea that the people who work in our systems of power are so obtuse that they can’t even see that they’re part of a conspiracy.

“The fundamental premise of liberalism,” #Yarvin told me,
“is that there is this inexorable march toward progress.

I disagree with that premise.”

He believes that this premise underpins a massive framework of power.

“My job,” as he puts it,
“is to wake people up from the Truman Show.”

#Thielverse#Cruz#Josh
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I wrote a piece that came across as critical of him.

It expressed my deep hopelessness about the future of America.

I figured he’d want nothing more to do with me.

But the morning it was published he sent me a short, heartfelt email.

He said that he’d been a bit “pained” to read in the piece that my parents disliked him
but said he’d like to talk more.

“I don’t see you as a member of the elite because I see you as independent of their ideological strictures and incentives,” he wrote.

“But maybe I’m just saying that because I like you.”

“Despair,” he signed off, “serves the regime.”

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#Vance sits somewhere in between these two tendencies
—at 37, he’s a 🔸venture capitalist who is young enough to be exposed to the dissident online currents.

But he’s also 🔸shaped by the most deeply traditionalist thinking of the American right.

He is friends with #Yarvin,
whom he openly cites as a political influence,
and with #Dreher,
who was there when Vance was baptized into the Catholic Church in 2019.

I’d been writing about #militias and right-wing stirrings in the #rural #West for years,
but I didn’t really understand how this alchemy worked until I first met him last July.

I’d gone back to Ohio to see my uncle, who was dying of cancer.

Vance and I both grew up around Cincinnati,
immersed in a culture of
white rural migrants who had come from coalfields and farm towns
to look for work in the cities of the Midwest.

We had met as a kind of experiment
—I was going to be in town anyway,
and because my uncle was sick,
I was thinking a lot about the place and what it meant to me.

On a whim, I asked an editor at a conservative magazine if I could write something from the perspective of a skeptical leftist.

Vance suggested that we meet at a diner where my dad had often taken me as a kid.

He was barely registering in the polls at the time.

Vance believes that a
🔹well-educated and culturally liberal American elite
has greatly benefited from globalization,
the financialization of our economy,
and the growing power of big tech.

This has led an
🔹Ivy League intellectual and management class
—a quasi-aristocracy he calls
“the regime”
—to adopt a set of economic and cultural interests that directly oppose those of people in places like Middletown, Ohio, where he grew up.

In the Vancian view, this class has no stake in what people on the New Right often call the “real economy”
—the farm and factory jobs that once sustained middle-class life in Middle America.

This is a fundamental difference between New Right figures like Vance and the Reaganite right-wingers of their parents’ generation.

To Vance—and he’s said this—culture war is class warfare.

Vance recently told an interviewer, “I gotta be honest with you,
🔸I don’t really care what happens to Ukraine,” 🔸
a flick at the fact that he thinks the American-led global order is as much about enriching defense contractors and think-tank types as it is about defending America’s interests.

“I do care about the fact that in my community right now
the leading cause of death among 18- to 45-year-olds
is Mexican fentanyl.”

His criticisms of big tech as “enemies of Western civilization”
often get lost in the run of Republican outrage over Trump being kicked off Twitter and Facebook,
though they go much deeper than this.

Vance believes that the regime has sold an illusive story that consumer gadgets and social media are constantly making our lives better,

even as wages stagnate and technology feeds an epidemic of depression.

#Thielverse#Cruz#Josh
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Kirn didn’t want to put a label on this movement,
describing it as a “fractious family of dissenters” when I called him at his home in Montana

—“a somewhat new, loose coalition of people whose major concern is that we not end up in a top-down controlled state.”

He told me he didn’t consider himself right wing and found some of the antidemocratic ideas he heard expressed in this sphere to be “personally chilling.”

But he described it as a zone of experimentation and free expression of a kind that was now closed off in America’s liberal mainstream.

“They seem to want a war,” he said.

“The last thing I want is some kind of definitive ideological war which leaves out the heterodox, complicated, and almost naively open spirit of American politics.”

And the ferment is starting to get noticed.

“I think that’s a really good sign,” one of the hosts of the dissident-right podcast
"The Fed-post"
said recently, discussing how Tucker Carlson had just quoted a tweet from one of their guests.

“This is a kind of burgeoning sect of thought,” he went on,
“and it’s causing people who are in positions of larger influence and relative power to actually have to start looking into it.”

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People often struggle with what to make of Thiel’s involvement in this ecosystem.

Last year the journalist Max Chafkin published a biography of Thiel, titled
"The Contrarian"
in which he described #Yarvin as the
“house political philosopher” for a network often called the #Thielverse.

The book focuses heavily on Thiel’s political maneuverings,
describing how he evolved from being a
hyper-libertarian to someone who now makes common cause with
nationalists and populists.

And it explains how Thiel helped both #Cruz and #Josh #Hawley on their paths to the Senate.

The Contrarian ends with a dark picture of the billionaire trying to extend his political reach ever more overtly
by funding and shepherding the campaigns of #Masters and #Vance.

“Masters and Vance are different from Hawley and Cruz,” Chafkin writes;
the former two are “extensions” of Thiel.

This is only partly true. It would be just as accurate to say that Thiel has been influenced by the intellectual currents and political critiques of the "New Right" that he’s now helping to support.

Many of these people are friendly with Thiel, or admire him,
but are by no means beholden to him.

And many of them hold views that would seem to make Thiel,
a tech oligarch currently worth around $8 billion who recently resigned from the Meta—née Facebook—board of directors,
their natural enemy.

This New Right is heavily populated by people with graduate degrees,
so there’s a lot of debate about who is in it and whether or not it even exists.

🔹At one end are the NatCons, post-liberals, and traditionalist figures like "Benedict Option" author #Rod #Dreher, who envision a
🔸conservatism reinvigorated 🔸
by an embrace of localist values,
religious identity,
and an active role for the state in promoting everything from
marriage to
environmental conservation.

🔹But there’s also a highly online set of
Substack writers, podcasters, and
anonymous Twitter posters
—“our true intellectual elite,” as one podcaster describes them.

This group encompasses everyone from
rich crypto bros and
tech executives to
back-to-the-landers to
disaffected members of the American intellectual class,
like "Up in the Air" author #Walter #Kirn,
whose fulminations against groupthink and
techno-authoritarianism have made him
an unlikely champion to the dissident right and heterodox fringe.

🔹But they share a the basic #worldview:
🔸that individualist liberal ideology,
increasingly bureaucratic governments,
and big tech
🔸are all combining into a world that is at once
tyrannical,
chaotic,
and devoid of the systems of value and morality that give human life richness and meaning
—as Blake Masters recently put it,
a “#dystopian #hell-world.”

#Peter#Thiel#NatCon

#hawley #MAGA #trump #hitler #FDR #fdr #Hitler
Hawley wrote on X, “Biden can’t stand for 90 minutes - but he’s 100% able to be President? Have fun explaining that.”
O’Donnell explained it “in three words ― Franklin Delano Roosevelt” ― who used a wheelchair throughout his four terms as president after contracting polio at age 39.
“Adolf Hitler was a younger, healthier man than Franklin Roosevelt but from his wheelchair President Franklin Delano Roosevelt forced Adolf Hitler in Berlin to commit suicide in his bunker as the allies, commanded by Gen. Dwight Eisenhower, were closing in on the German capital city.”
“Hitler could stand for 90 minutes. He did it all the time. 90 minutes was a short speech for Adolf Hitler,” “Josh Hawley would have loved Adolf Hitler, if standing for 90 minutes and ranting incoherently is something Josh Hawley really admires as presidential. Josh Hawley knows that it doesn’t matter how long a president can stand.”