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Chuck DarwinAlong with the tech-centric WhatsApp groups Krishnan had organized out of a16z, Andreessen joined a slew of others, including ones that Torenberg set up for tech founders and for more political discussions. The tech chats tended to be on WhatsApp and the political ones on Signal, which is more fully encrypted, and they had different settings. (“Every group chat ends up being about memes and humor and the goal of the group chat is to get as close to the line of being actually objectionable without tripping it,” Andreessen told Fridman. “People will set to 5 minutes before they send something particularly inflammatory.“)After a group of liberal intellectuals published a letter in Harper’s on July 7, 2020, some of its signers were invited to join a Signal group called “Everything Is Fine.” There, writers including <a href="https://c.im/tags/Kmele" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Kmele</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Foster" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Foster</a>, who co-hosts the podcast "The Fifth Column", Persuasion founder <a href="https://c.im/tags/Yascha" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Yascha</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Mounk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mounk</a>, and the Harper’s letter contributor Williams joined Andreessen and a group that also included the anti-woke conservative activist <a href="https://c.im/tags/Chris" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Chris</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Rufo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Rufo</a>.The new participants were charmed by Andreessen’s engagement: “He was the most available, the most present, the most texting of anybody in the group — which shocked me because it seemed like he was the most important person in the group,” one said.But the center didn’t hold. The liberal Harper’s types were surprised to find what one described an “illiberal worldview” among tech figures more concerned with power than speech. The conservatives found the liberal intellectuals tiresome, committed to what Rufo described to me as “infinite discourse” over action.The breaking point came on July 5, 2021, when Foster and Williams, along with the never-Trump conservative <a href="https://c.im/tags/David" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#David</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/French" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#French</a> and the liberal academic <a href="https://c.im/tags/Jason" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Jason</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Stanley" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Stanley</a>, wrote a New York Times op-ed criticizing new laws against teaching “critical race theory.”“Even if this censorship is legal in the narrow context of public primary and secondary education, it is antithetical to educating students in the culture of American free expression,” they wrote.The conservatives had thought the Harper’s letter writers were their allies in an all-out ideological battle, and considered their position a betrayal. Andreessen “went really ballistic in a quite personal way at Thomas,” a participant recalled. The group ended after Andreessen “wrote something along the lines of ‘thank you everybody, I think it’s time to take a Signal break,’” another said.The meltdown of this liberal-tech alliance was, to <a href="https://c.im/tags/Rufo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Rufo</a>, a healthy development.“A lot of these technologists hoped that the centrist path was a viable one, because it would permit them in theory to change the culture without having to expose themselves to the risk of becoming partisans,” he said. “By 2021, the smartest people in tech understood that these people were a dead end — so the group chats exploded and reformulated on more explicitly political lines.”Rufo had been there all along: “I looked at these chats as a good investment of my time to radicalize tech elites who I thought were the most likely and high-impact new coalition partners for the right.” <a href="https://c.im/tags/MarcAndreessen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MarcAndreessen</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/LexFridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LexFridman</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/MarkCuban" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MarkCuban</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/VivekRamaswamy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VivekRamaswamy</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/ErikTorenberg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ErikTorenberg</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Krishnan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Krishnan</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/NoahSmith" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NoahSmith</a>

Toni AittoniemiThe one person I will blame most for when our kids are fighting the combined Russian and American troops is not Elon Musk. It’s not Donald Trump. It’s not JD Vance, Marc Andreesen, Angela Merkel or Paavo Lipponen or even Joe Rogan. It’s not. Those people were obviously in the wrong.The one I’m saving my highest middle finger for is FUCKING LEX FRIDMAN.Fuck you Lex. Fuck your good vibes fascist broisms. Fuck your nerd credentials. Fuck your ignorance and gullibility.Fuck You. <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/lexfridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lexfridman</a>

Marvin the Martian 🇺🇦RUSSIAN REACTS to Zelensky Lex Fridman Interview by <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/NFKRZ" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NFKRZ</a> 23:36Which were <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LexFridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LexFridman</a>'s intentions? A reaction and a discussion about the language question and about the idea of Russians and Ukrainians having dialogue: what Ukrainians expected from regular Russians at the start of the war?☮️ 🇵🇹 Roman is a Russian youtuber from <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Chelyabinsk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Chelyabinsk</a> opposing the Putin's regime. He fled <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Russia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Russia</a> to <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Georgia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Georgia</a> in March 2022, now in <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Portugal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Portugal</a>.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bzVeUAg74M" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bzVeUAg74M</a><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Ukraine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ukraine</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Ukrainerussiawar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ukrainerussiawar</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/NAFO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NAFO</a>

Marvin the Martian 🇺🇦My reaction to Lex Fridman's Zelensky interview by <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/VladVexler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#VladVexler</a> 33:18Vlad analyses the latest interview of President <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Zelensky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Zelensky</a> with podcaster <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LexFridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LexFridman</a>.🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Vlad Vexler is a Russian born British philosopher, studying Putin's regime and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Russia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Russia</a> 's (and Soviet) society for decades. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcROeS1xh0k" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcROeS1xh0k</a><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Ukraine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ukraine</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Ukrainerussiawar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Ukrainerussiawar</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Youtube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Youtube</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/NAFO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NAFO</a>

Toni AittoniemiI'm really glad I listened to this interview of Volodomyr <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/Zelensky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Zelensky</a> by <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/LexFridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LexFridman</a>. Because, he's changed. And I mean Lex here.This is the first time in many years I have, and the intellectual humility I knew of him is gone.He's become a powerful media figure, a power broker in <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/politics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#politics</a>, and behaves like one.Even if he still has the demeanor of "just a tech guy", he pushes politics, hard. He's not there to listen.The same as Rogan. Power corrupts. <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/nafo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#nafo</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u321m25rKXc" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u321m25rKXc</a>

Toni Aittoniemi<a href="https://aoir.social/@aram" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@aram</a> Now people get their ”news” from vibes-based podcasts like <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/lexfridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lexfridman</a> or <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/joerogan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#joerogan</a>, who deal in <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/toxicpositivity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#toxicpositivity</a> avoiding all the negatives. This results in a magical thinking -attitude to <a href="https://mastodon.green/tags/politics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#politics</a> that skips all the references to cause and effect.

Victoria Stuart 🇨🇦 🏳️‍⚧️"Sort of a liberal guy:" Trump says he hasn't been invited on Joe Rogan's podcast "I’ve said no every time. I don’t want to help him. I’m not interested in helping him" Rogan said in 2022 <a href="https://www.salon.com/2024/09/04/sort-of-a-liberal-guy-says-he-hasnt-been-invited-on-joe-rogans-podcast" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.salon.com/2024/09/04/sort-of-a-liberal-guy-says-he-hasnt-been-invited-on-joe-rogans-podcast</a>* Rogan h/e happy to host Elon Musk, Jordan Peterson, ... * Speaking to podcaster Lex Fridman Trump reticent on tension betw. himself/Rogan<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Fridman" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Fridman</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LexFridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LexFridman</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JoeRogan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JoeRogan</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/JRE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JRE</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EnablingFascism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EnablingFascism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Trump2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Trump2</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GOP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#GOP</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/conservatism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#conservatism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fascism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fascism</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FarRight" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FarRight</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ChristianRight" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ChristianRight</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/disinformation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#disinformation</a>

Lutin DiscretDoes a <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@sponsorblock" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@sponsorblock</a> exists for podcasts? 🤔I had to listen 8 minutes of <a href="https://mastodon.libre-entreprise.com/tags/LexFridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LexFridman</a> trying to sell me a VPN among other pointless stuff I'll never buy. I would like my app to auto-skip those.Just it case it might change anything, I use <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@AntennaPod" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@AntennaPod</a>

Adam DallianceI watched <a href="https://boing.world/tags/ElizerYudkowsky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ElizerYudkowsky</a> talking to <a href="https://boing.world/tags/LexFridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LexFridman</a> about <a href="https://boing.world/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AI</a>.The thing on whether the <a href="https://boing.world/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AI</a> should be <a href="https://boing.world/tags/openSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#openSource</a> isn't as certain as Elizer thinks, I reckon.There are some future words in which the way to align <a href="https://boing.world/tags/AGI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AGI</a> is spotted by someone looking at the architecture on Github in their spare time. That thing about open source reducing bugs because of many-eyes on it isn't just made up.If the code is going to happen, perhaps it's better than it happen with the most eyes upon it?The woman to solve it might be a hobbyist working in a high school, or a jobbing patent clerk with messy hair.The preference is still to just down-tools though: There shouldn't be any source-code to copyleft until we know how to aim it, let alone where to aim it. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaTRHFaaPG8" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaTRHFaaPG8</a>

DrBob, Retired 🧠 Mechanic<a href="https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mekkaokereke</a> Here is a good podcast associated with the book I recommended previously. Worthy of your time – <a href="https://vmst.io/tags/JeremiSuri" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JeremiSuri</a>: American <a href="https://vmst.io/tags/CivilWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CivilWar</a> — <a href="https://vmst.io/tags/LexFridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LexFridman</a> Podcast <a href="https://hachyderm.io/@lexfri" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@lexfri</a> <a href="https://overcast.fm/+eZyAZMglU" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://overcast.fm/+eZyAZMglU</a>

Hobson Lane<a href="https://mastodon.social/@elonjet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@elonjet</a> I guess Lex is in the running for another <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Tesla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tesla</a> personal robot research grant.(robot emotion and robot consciousness is <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Lex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Lex</a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Musk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Musk</a>'s shared crackpot obsession). And this week's podcast was all about <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SpaceX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SpaceX</a> and musk gambles.<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/robotics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#robotics</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LexFridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LexFridman</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AI</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AGI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AGI</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ElonJet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ElonJet</a>

GeekFuriousAt every turn Lex Fridman makes me wonder how he got so stupid being so smart. <a href="https://freeradical.zone/tags/LexFridman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LexFridman</a> <a href="https://freeradical.zone/tags/ElonMusk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ElonMusk</a> <a href="https://freeradical.zone/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Twitter</a>

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