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He was demoted to deputy project scientist, and I suspect that was for political reasons, because he dared question (carefully, almost subtly, but still) the decision to postpone, and maybe abandon the #MSR mission due to "budget constrains".

LOL! No budget constrains for #Musk's and others' #RUD or #upsidedown "successes", but constrains for the most successful planetary mission to date? Gimme a break!

I'll never stop mentioning that the decline started in #Biden's admin.

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#NASA's #MMGIS has moved (probably some time ago) to a new dataset prepared by the #USGS which includes areas west of Jezero Crater, which may be where the Mars Sample Return mission (#MSR) could land, if the mission ever takes off.

For those interested in Martian maps and #GIS, here is where to find the new data:

Description PDF:
hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2025
Source (5.1GB, includes raster and DTM):
asc-pds-services.s3.us-west-2.

#Perseverance ##Mars2020 #Solarocks #Space

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While #Perseverance and team has some (political) steam left, it does what it came to Mars to do: examine rocks and collect samples, to be returned to Earth with an upcoming mission, the #MSR. That mission is now proposed by the Trump WH to be cancelled.

Processed SUPERCAM_RMI of a laser zapped stone in front of the rover.
Looking NE (47°) from RMC 73.0000
Sol 1494, LMST: 11:46:46

Original: mars.nasa.gov/mars2020-raw-ima

Credit: #NASA/JPL-Caltech/LANL/CNES/IRAP/65dBnoise

#Mars2020#Solarocks#Space
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The #Trump administration intends to terminate #NASA's Mars Sample Return mission (#MSR), in favor of "putting an American on Mars" and on the Moon "before China".

#Kleptocracy in plain sight. Taxpayer money that was allocated to scientific missions will now be shoveled to the pockets of the fascist billionaire who hasn't set foot in one of his spacecraft, even for a short trip beyond the Kármán line.

And you thought that science was not political.

nasa.gov/news-release/presiden

NASAPresident Trump’s FY26 Budget Revitalizes Human Space Exploration - NASAThe Trump-Vance Administration released toplines of the President’s budget for Fiscal Year 2026 on Friday. The budget accelerates human space exploration of
#BS#Musk#Space
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Safe & Precise Landing – Integrated Capabilities Evolution (#SPLICE) is a #NASA program to develop next-generation landing technologies for planetary exploration.

SPLICE technologies are being considered for use on Mars Sample Return (#MSR), the Europa Lander, Commercial Lunar Payload Services flights, and Gateway.

The image shows #Ingenuity's Hazard Avoidance system in action on Mars and a sample of SPLICE capabilities.

nasa.gov/centers-and-facilitie

#Solarocks#Space
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After laying off thousands of employees (8% of #JPL's workforce) under the #Biden administration and putting on hold the #MSR mission, while favoring "space economy" (a euphemism for subsidizing the space industry) and calling upside-down moon landings and half baked private missions a "success", now

#NASA is being audited by their contractor #Musk and his DOGE team.

As conflicted as this may sound, that's today's reality in #USpol

bloomberg.com/news/articles/20

#space#SpaceEconomy#subsidies
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Another paper from the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference, #LPSC2025, examines co-occurrence and absence cases of organic carbon with "leopard spots" and "poppy seeds".

hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2025

For a thorough list of papers regarding Jezero Crater and #Perseverance, see @sharponlooker 's detailed thread:

mastodon.social/@sharponlooker

Many thanks to @sharponlooker for digging out and sharing those papers! Great service to the #solarocks community 👍 👍 !!

#Mars2020#MSR#NASA
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Wondering how come and #NASA don't have money to bring back 30 samples of rock from Mars, that the #Perseverance rover is painstakingly collecting under the guidance of brilliant scientific and engineering minds?

While at the same time #US oligarch wealth skyrockets under both GOP and Democrat administrations? (see slopes of skyrocketing wealth of the rich, in graph)

See for yourself: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_i
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_i

Still wondering?

#USpol#MSR#Mars2020
🆘Bill Cole 🇺🇦

As I've said before: this won't happen in any useful timeframe. These #MSR samples won't even be the 1st samples to reach Earth, IMHO. The fact that they hand-waved the return part until after the sample gathering was started *guaranteed* failure.

Humans have only ever retrieved material from smaller objects: the Moon & an asteroid. In all cases, the whole process of gathering & returning samples has been carefully planned beforehand.
#Mars #SampleReturn #NASA mastodon.social/@arstechnica/1

MastodonArs Technica (@arstechnica@mastodon.social)Attached: 1 image Fund or cancel? Robots or humans? NASA punts on Mars Sample Return decision "We want to have the quickest, cheapest way to get these 30 samples back." https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/01/fund-or-cancel-robots-or-humans-nasa-punts-on-mars-sample-return-decision/?utm_brand=arstechnica&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social
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NASA Administrator Bill Nelson and Nicky Fox, associate administrator, Science Mission Directorate, will host a media teleconference at 1 p.m. EST, Tuesday, Jan. 7, to provide an update on the status of the agency’s Mars Sample Return Program.

nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-to-

NASANASA to Host Media Call Highlighting Mars Sample Return Update - NASANASA will host a media teleconference at 1 p.m. EST, Tuesday, Jan. 7, to provide an update on the status of the agency’s Mars Sample Return Program.
#MSR#Mars2020#Perseverance
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Ken Farley, at the AGU24 meeting:

"We're likely to spend about the next 6 months investigating Witch Hazel Hill, and I think that is likely to be on the time frame on which there's at least some more clarity about where a potential rendezvous [with the #MSR lander] will happen."

Ken Farley's carefully expressed views are indicative of the hard times the #Mars2020 mission is going through.

But what's science compared to "space economy"? Hype is now the unbeatable modus vivendi!

#sarcasm
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#NASA Plans to f̶u̶n̶n̶e̶l̶ ̶t̶a̶x̶p̶a̶y̶e̶r̶ ̶m̶o̶n̶e̶y̶ Assign Missions for Two Future Artemis Cargo Landers to b̶i̶l̶l̶i̶o̶n̶a̶i̶r̶e̶ ̶o̶w̶n̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ #BlueOrigin and #SpaceX .

A week ago #JPL laid off another 5% of its personnel.

#MSR, the Mars Sample Return Mission that was supposed to bring back home the samples #Perseverance has been collecting was pushed into the mid '30s, the earliest, if it ever happens.

It's the space economy stupid!

nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-pla

NASANASA Plans to Assign Missions for Two Future Artemis Cargo Landers - NASANASA, along with its industry and international partners, is preparing for sustained exploration of the lunar surface with the Artemis campaign to advance
#Solarocks#space
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If this image is not of a city on Mars, I don't know what is! 🙃 😀

(spoiler: it's a weblike pattern of ridges, called boxwork, that were captured by NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter on Dec. 10, 2006. The #Curiosity rover will study ridges similar to these up close in 2025)

More fun with Martian geology:
nasa.gov/missions/mars-science

#MSR#NASA#solarocks
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Donald Trump's pick, former #NASA administrator Jim Bridenstine, is the chair of NASA's Mars Sample Return Strategy Review team (spacenews.com/nasa-on-track-to)

Surprised?

In his past, Bridenstine (who lacked the scientific background to lead NASA) had "criticized NASA spending on climate science and has supported increased privatization of U.S. civil and military space activities."

More on Wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Brid

#MSR#SpaceEconomy#SpaceSubsidies
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