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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ajsadauskas</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>JessTheUnstill</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tomiahonen</span></a></span> yes, and to <em>add insult to injury</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mozilla</span></a> didn't even wanted to sell people like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> or me a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxOS</span></a> device, with the only one being <em>"launched"</em> in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a>'d &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> phone in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Spain</span></a> one could only attain in-store with all the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a>"</em> nonsense they had, demanding a legal address in Spain back then.</p><ul><li>So whilst Firefox OS had the <em>most "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accessible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>accessible</span></a>"</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Development" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Development</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tools" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tools</span></a> (literally using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a> for it and having <em>every <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>App</span></a></em> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebView" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebView</span></a>|s / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HTML5</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JS5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JS5</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSS3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CSS3</span></a> files in a container), they didn't even sold <em>us</em> said devices, making it a worse flop than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuTouch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuTouch</span></a> which at least still gets some devices made that support it...</li></ul><p>And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/nerds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nerds</span></a> like myself are far from the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consoomer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>consoomer</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Normies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Normies</span></a>"</em> for whom stuff that isn't on shelves at Staturn/MediaMarkt, BestBuy, Walmart, ... doesn't exist. I'm used to importing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> that I want!</p><ul><li>Feels even more <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">half-assed</a> than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> in hindsight…</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> It's not <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/disinfo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>disinfo</span></a> when one points out that you demand <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> from Users and that is literally a architectural vulnerability, alongside your <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Centralized</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Infrastructure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Infrastructure</span></a>.</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Solution" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Solution</span></a> is literally the reason why I consider it <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/insecure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>insecure</span></a>.</li></ul><p>Not to mention the lack of <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> support with an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnionService</span></a> or the willingness to fulfill <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cyberfacist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacist</span></a> <em>"Embargoes"</em> or shilling a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> named <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>!</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a> <em>is</em> the illicit activity!!!</li></ul><p>And don't get me started on the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cyberfacism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cyberfacism</span></a> that is <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>.</p><ul><li>If you were secure, criminals would've used your platform so hard, it would've been shutdown like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EncroChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EncroChat</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SkyECC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SkyECC</span></a>.</li></ul><p>I may nit have allvthe.evidence yet, but <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> stenches like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a>: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Honeypot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Honeypot</span></a>-esque!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@nemo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nemo</span></a></span> Except <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> demanding <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a>, being subject to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> an shilling <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>, a blatant <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> disqualifies them!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://koelle4future.de/@blog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>blog</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@sylv_a" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>sylv_a</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://literatur.social/@viennawriter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>viennawriter</span></a></span> und ja, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> hat immer nich den <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> am laufen...<br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>I mean, the fact that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Moxie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Moxie</span></a> has been <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7L8DtH6ROY&amp;t=105s" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">affiliated with</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> makes <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> look bad and nowadays, buymobilecoin.com refers to a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-based <a href="https://www.sentz.com/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">payment processor</a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nigeria" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nigeria</span></a> which has some pretty <a href="https://www.sentz.com/terms-of-service" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">questionable ToS</a>...</p><ul><li>I'll let you guys make up your own mind. </li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoins" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoins</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ScamAlert" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ScamAlert</span></a></p>
Terence Eden<p>At its (very brief) peak, a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> was worth $68.</p><p>They are now worth only 8¢</p><p>You can't use MobileCoin to donate to Signal, despite it still being baked in to <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span>. </p><p>FWIW, I think it is sensible for apps to experiment with weird new fads. No one knows what will become useful, and it builds institutional knowledge.</p><p>But I think it is probably time to gracefully retire this feature.</p>
Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:<p>GOOD: <a href="https://social.wildeboer.net/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> switches to usernames and finally gives up on their insistence of sharing your mobile phone number. </p><p>BAD: <a href="https://social.wildeboer.net/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> keeps its <a href="https://social.wildeboer.net/tags/cryptocurrency" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cryptocurrency</span></a> wallet for <a href="https://social.wildeboer.net/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> in their app that nobody wants or needs.</p>
henry<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> Why would you of all people cringe at <a href="https://mstdn.science/tags/NFTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NFTs</span></a> given <a href="https://mstdn.science/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> experiments with <a href="https://mstdn.science/tags/crypto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>crypto</span></a> wallet integration? <a href="https://mstdn.science/tags/Mobilecoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mobilecoin</span></a> At least one messaging app, <a href="https://mstdn.science/tags/Status" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Status</span></a>, also appears to have a <a href="https://mstdn.science/tags/crypto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>crypto</span></a> wallet, and doesn’t require a phone number to register. Acknowledging hating NFTs is trendy today, that tech does seem far from dead, eg if you look at patents.</p>
Terence Eden<p>Ha! As someone else pointed out, <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> doesn't accept donations using its own <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> crypto.<br><a href="https://signal.org/donate/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">signal.org/donate/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a><br>Look, I still think Signal is a great app, but this "beta" is absolute nonsense.</p>
Terence Eden<p>Two years ago, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> tried launching <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> in the UK.<br>The feature is still in beta.<br>I wonder who made money from that launch spike - because it looks like a successful pump-and-dump.</p>
Json Doh<p>Does any of you use <a href="https://freeradical.zone/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> at all?</p><p>Comments are welcome. And please boost for more opinions.</p>