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the roamer<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://merveilles.town/@lrhodes" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lrhodes</span></a></span> </p><p>Context Boosts, wow. Excellent design idea. It really reflects the classical Mastodon approach of 1. Reply; 2. Boost the original post; 3. Boost your reply. I stick to this approach religiously, but elegant it ain't. Your Context Boost bundles these three steps into one. As you say, it preserves the continued involvement of the original poster, which twitter-style QTs don't. Excellent. </p><p><a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/boosts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>boosts</span></a> <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/SelfBoosts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfBoosts</span></a> <br><a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/ContexBoosts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ContexBoosts</span></a></p>
Oyinbo<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://historians.social/@rachelcleves" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rachelcleves</span></a></span> </p><p>EVERY generic ethical problem is malicious speech.</p><p>👆</p><p>I call it Woolwich Conjecture. Solves all sort of stuff, from trolley problem to arguing about <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> on <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> </p><p>Anyways, what book did you hate, and why?</p>
Mihailik 🌼🌼🌼🏃🏿‍♀️🌼🌼🌼<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@GeoffWilbourn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>GeoffWilbourn</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://sauropods.win/@futurebird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>futurebird</span></a></span> </p><p>There is no policy decision or feature rollout where <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> doesn't put big instance admins over everything else.</p><p>Literally, from <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> to <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/MastodonSearch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MastodonSearch</span></a> to broken threads to moderation to VC decisions.</p><p>Tune out nonsense rationalisations, and you'll see the raw power game.</p>
Hughster<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Gargron" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Gargron</span></a></span> It'd be helpful to clarify what "QT" means here.</p><p>Twitter <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> work more as a kind of "alt-reply" function, more "branching off a conversation" than simply linking to a post, with 3 essential attributes:</p><p>1. The other post is displayed as if it's a seamless part of ones own<br>2. The other person is notified just as with a reply or @-mention<br>3. QTs are listed under "x Quoted Posts" under the original post</p><p>When one says "I want QTs", is this what one means? Would anything less be enough?</p>
Felicity Martin<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Gargron" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Gargron</span></a></span> I am a recent immigrant from the birdsite and a convert to no <a href="https://mastodon.scot/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a>, so hope you don’t add them. <br>What’s wrong with simply opening up a Toot reply from someone you follow to see the thread if it appears interesting? Mayba tiny bit more effort, bu it keeps timelines cleaner and less demanding of attention</p>
kdw<p>The biggest problem with the “QTs are fine without the algorithms” argument is that people who want Mastodon to be more like Twitter are also working on algorithms and search </p><p>… and with many of the same justifications…</p><p><a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/qts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>qts</span></a> <a href="https://mastodonapp.uk/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QT</span></a></p>
scott f<p>I wrote about something getting lost in discussions about a <a href="https://carfree.city/tags/QuoteToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QuoteToot</span></a> feature on here:</p><p>They're just links.</p><p>You can already link to a toot. Let's be specific about how we want links to work better and have better previews.</p><p><a href="https://scott.mn/2022/12/30/quote_toot_is_link/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">scott.mn/2022/12/30/quote_toot</span><span class="invisible">_is_link/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://carfree.city/tags/QuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QuoteBoost</span></a> <a href="https://carfree.city/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QT</span></a> <a href="https://carfree.city/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a></p>
John (he/him) :vbike:<p>I decided to take some time to reflect on some of the <a href="https://sfba.social/tags/QuoteBoost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QuoteBoost</span></a> discourse, from the lens of moderation and community development. I expect these are not new thoughts since there's a lively discourse to which I'm largely oblivious.</p><p>Special thanks to <span class="h-card"><a href="https://sauropods.win/@futurebird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>futurebird</span></a></span>, whose posts have been especially illuminating for me.</p><p><a href="https://write.as/collisiondomain/some-thoughts-on-quote-boosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">write.as/collisiondomain/some-</span><span class="invisible">thoughts-on-quote-boosts</span></a></p><p><a href="https://sfba.social/tags/QB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QB</span></a> <a href="https://sfba.social/tags/QBs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QBs</span></a> <a href="https://sfba.social/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QT</span></a> <a href="https://sfba.social/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a></p>
Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾<p>I've more or less accepted that <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QT</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> is coming my way lol. I'm hoping that <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> 's powerful moderation systems will somehow mitigate the damage.</p><p>Anyway, wonder which scenario will play out?<br>1) Some instances will enable it, users begin quote tooting people of other instances. Some are ok, some react by blocking. Eventually, servers that are pro-QT gets defederated from some servers. <br>2) Instances begin declaring themselves pro- and against-QT. </p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/quotetoots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>quotetoots</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/quotetweets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>quotetweets</span></a> </p><p>OR</p>
Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾<p>I am frustrated by the <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/quotetoots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>quotetoots</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/quotetweets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>quotetweets</span></a> discussion. Had to ponder why I am reacting this way. I realize that I am upset that:<br>1) Stories of being abused via <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QT</span></a> are being dismissed, and this makes me feel like people prefer convenience over protecting the ones that will prob get abused via this <br>2) Many say that the marginalized want QTs. We are not the Borg. Not all of us want it! Have you actually spoken to ALL of us or using us as a convenient way to win the <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> argument?</p>
Kristen Browning<p>I miss the link previews - both text and pictures - even more than I miss <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> on <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QuoteTweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QuoteTweet</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LinkPreviews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LinkPreviews</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/MastodonFeatures" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MastodonFeatures</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/TwitterMigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TwitterMigration</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/FeatureRequest" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FeatureRequest</span></a></p>
Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾<p>If you need to understand the opposition to <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/QuoteToots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QuoteToots</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/quotetweets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>quotetweets</span></a> and why some people believe it will encourage toxicity, please read this informative thread by an expert - <br><span class="h-card"><a href="https://wandering.shop/@Quinnae_Moon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Quinnae_Moon</span></a></span></p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/qts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>qts</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/QT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QT</span></a></p><p><a href="https://wandering.shop/@Quinnae_Moon/109571456724115921" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">wandering.shop/@Quinnae_Moon/1</span><span class="invisible">09571456724115921</span></a></p>
David Knuffke<p>The recent discourse around <a href="https://ecoevo.social/tags/QuoteTweets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QuoteTweets</span></a> is as good an example of this dynamic as any. If you have an inclination to tell people while <a href="https://ecoevo.social/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> are not “a thing that <a href="https://ecoevo.social/tags/mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mastodon</span></a> does”, consider if you are adding literally anything of value to the conversation that doesn’t also diminish the voice of someone who is impacted by white supremacy dynamics.</p>
Mark Gardner<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mekkaokereke</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@thomasfuchs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>thomasfuchs</span></a></span> Social media has a long and ignominious tradition of amplifying outrage and dropping context. Sorry, <a href="https://social.sdf.org/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> long-timers, just because you banned <a href="https://social.sdf.org/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> doesn’t mean you’re immune.</p>
ACAB for Cutie :stl_cards:<p>If <a href="https://social.stlouist.com/tags/qts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>qts</span></a> are essential to your enjoyment of Mastodon, please consider the app <a href="https://social.stlouist.com/tags/Megalodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Megalodon</span></a>. I know it's available for Android, but I can't speak to its availability for iOS.<br>It has a feature built in where you can post about the toot you're retooting.</p><p><a href="https://social.stlouist.com/tags/rt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rt</span></a> <a href="https://social.stlouist.com/tags/qts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>qts</span></a> <a href="https://social.stlouist.com/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Twitter</span></a> <a href="https://social.stlouist.com/tags/TwitterMigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TwitterMigration</span></a> <a href="https://social.stlouist.com/tags/thatsTheToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>thatsTheToot</span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.stlouist.com/@CassOfDunshire/109569805728042484" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">social.stlouist.com/@CassOfDun</span><span class="invisible">shire/109569805728042484</span></a></p>
Cassian [main]<p>I feel like it's worth mentioning, re; quote-boosts/QTs, that we can't "just add the feature to Mastodon" in a federation - it's a lot more complicated than a lot of people seem to realise?</p><p>The argument about whether or not we should add QTs is an important one, but once we get past that there's the issue of federation.</p><p>Mastodon is one software of many using the ActivityPub "skeleton" code. If ActivityPub doesn't have QTs in its code and Mastodon adds a QT feature, any non-Mastodon software (or even server) has to work out how to interpret Mastodon's QTs. If it isn't Mastodon-compatible, QTs will just break. They might even break in a way that harms the person being QTed. And what if someone on *another* server boosts/reblogs that broken QT?</p><p>Also, since we on Mastodon can follow people who are using federated software that isn't Mastodon (e.g. instances/softwares that look and behave like Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, etc), how does that work? Would people on Mastodon be able to QT people on not-Mastodon? How are the OPs going to feel about that? Would they even get notifications about it, since QTs aren't in the ActivityPub "skeleton" of federation?</p><p>And since we're a federation of separate servers even "within" Mastodon, there's also the question of how older/outdated Mastodon servers will handle incoming QTs. If you're on an older version of Mastodon and you follow someone on a newer instance and they QT someone, what would that look like? Maybe someone has intentionally chosen a fork of Mastodon with QTs turned off. Can people on other softwares QT them, and how would they feel about that?</p><p>[ <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>meta</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/MastoMeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MastoMeta</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/MastoDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MastoDev</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/QuoteBoosts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QuoteBoosts</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/QuoteToot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QuoteToot</span></a> <a href="https://eldritch.cafe/tags/discourse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>discourse</span></a> ]</p>
Tod Hilton :verified_paw:<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://masto.ai/@whatzaname" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>whatzaname</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://sauropods.win/@futurebird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>futurebird</span></a></span> You're missing the many points of how <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/QuoteToots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QuoteToots</span></a> raise up others. You're also assuming the only use of <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> is from a negative or abusive perspective.</p><p>In my followings of <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/BlackMastadon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BlackMastadon</span></a> quote toots are one of the most frequent and recurring requests for features missing from Twitter.</p>
Jeremy (יעקב) 🇺🇦<p>Another big <a href="https://babka.social/tags/tip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tip</span></a> I have for people who are coming here from <a href="https://babka.social/tags/Twitter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Twitter</span></a> in the <a href="https://babka.social/tags/TwitterMigration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TwitterMigration</span></a> is to not lament <a href="https://babka.social/tags/QTs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QTs</span></a> because they were part of what was bad there and Mastadon has a better fuction (once you get used to it).</p><p><a href="https://babka.social/tags/Boost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Boost</span></a> pushes it to the top of <a href="https://babka.social/tags/TimeLines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TimeLines</span></a> like a <a href="https://babka.social/tags/Retweet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Retweet</span></a> over there. But then, reply with <a href="https://babka.social/tags/hashtags" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hashtags</span></a> that you think apply. That automatically puts the toot in a bunch of other timelines for those topics increasing both the <a href="https://babka.social/tags/reach" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>reach</span></a> and the <a href="https://babka.social/tags/relevance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>relevance</span></a>.</p>