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Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://hear-me.social/@debby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@debby</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mumble</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IRC</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> (+OMEMO = <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@gajim</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#monoclesChat</a>) & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linphone</a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SIP</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#VoIP</a>) are the better options. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NextcloudTalk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NextcloudTalk</a> also exist and <a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@monocles</a> as well as <a href="https://mstdn.social/@Stuxhost" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Stuxhost</a> offer that.<ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Signal</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Session" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Session</a> are <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#proprietary</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#centralized</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SingleVendor</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SingleProvider</a> solutions!</li><li>And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Matrix</a> is just a shittier <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a>. Give <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@delta</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> a try instead.</li></ul>OfC <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JitsiMeet</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebCall</a> are also great!<a href="https://webcall.timur.mobi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://webcall.timur.mobi</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#discord</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LhiCP8AQWs" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IS LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!</a><ul><li>It's worse than any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IRC</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mumble</a> or even the old <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TeamSpeak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TeamSpeak</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Skype</a> for that matter.</li><li>It combines the disadvantages of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Forum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Forum</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/paywalled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#paywalled</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#documentation</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chat</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/voicechat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#voicechat</a> with 0 redeeming qualities (unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zulip</a> & Mumble & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a>) it's just an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InformationBlackhole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#InformationBlackhole</a>!</li></ul>I'm shure fecking <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dread" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#dread</a> has better moderation and I'd rather use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MicrosoftTeams</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Slack</a> cuz those at least have proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/moderation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#moderation</a> tools.<ul><li>And I'd rather subscribe to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LKML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LKML</a> and see my inbox getting hosed than using any shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SaaS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SaaS</a>!</li></ul>Case in point: I'd rather <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SelfHost</a> all my comms infrastructure than to ever use something like Discord or any other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GDPR</a>-violating SaaS that is just enshittification.I'd rather recommend people to instead choose a tool that does everything but horrible to go with multiple smaller & good tools<ul><li>Public Chat? IRC!</li><li>Group Voicechat? Mumble.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Documentation</a>? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mkDocs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mkDocs</a>-material.</li><li>1:1 Chats? XMPP+OMEMO.</li><li>E2EE Group Chats? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltaChat</a>.</li><li>E2EE Calls? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebCall</a>.</li><li>Filehosting? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPFS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IPFS</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BitTorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BitTorrent</a>, oshi.at, etc. ...</li><li>…</li></ul>Check <a href="https://mas.to/@alternativeto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@alternativeto</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/@european_alternatives" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@european_alternatives</a> for options.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WasFehlt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WasFehlt</a>: Nen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Stellenmarkt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Stellenmarkt</a> <ul><li>ohne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bullshit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bullshit</a>,</li><li>mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gehaltstransparenz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gehaltstransparenz</a>,</li><li>ohne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Filler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Filler</a>-Anzeigen ohne spezifische Vakanz dahinter,</li><li>mit verbindlichen Angaben zur Position wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Arbeitszeiten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Arbeitszeiten</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Arbeitsort" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Arbeitsort</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Vertragsart" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Vertragsart</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gehalt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gehalt</a>, etc.</li><li>ohne erkaufbare und wegnötigbare <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bewertungen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bewertungen</a>,</li><li>nur mit anonymisierten & verifizierten Bewertungen,</li><li>ohne "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KI</a>" <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ChatBots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatBots</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BotAccounts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BotAccounts</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Spam</a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Werbung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Werbung</a>,</li><li>mit Verbot doppelter Anzeigen und klarer Deduplikation sowie tatsächlichen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Moderatoren" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Moderatoren</a> die <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Meldungen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Meldungen</a> bearbeiten und beantworten,</li><li>ohne Bullshit wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JavaScript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JavaScript</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cookies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Cookies</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tracking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tracking</a>, etc,</li><li>mit wirklichen, verpflichtenden <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Kontaktdaten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Kontaktdaten</a>, gern auch als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionService" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OnionService</a> auf <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tor</a> wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#eMail</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PGP</a>-Pubkey, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a> für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Chat</a> und <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebCall</a> für <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bewerbungsgespr%C3%A4che" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bewerbungsgespräche</a> - sofern diese auch nur ansatzweise notwendig sind.</li><li>ohne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BuzzwordBingo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BuzzwordBingo</a> und anderen Bullshit...</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://universeodon.com/@georgetakei" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@georgetakei</a> In fact, I want <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Payphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Payphones</a> to return, but better...Like add some <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privacy</a>, make the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PhoneBooth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PhoneBooth</a> sound & <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/RF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RF</a> insulated and have a <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Terminal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Terminal</a> just with <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebCall</a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JitsiMeet</a> on and maybe some <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/IrDA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IrDA</a>, <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Bluetooth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluetooth</a> and <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/WiFi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WiFi</a> as option to transfer files...<a href="https://timur.mobi/webcall/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://timur.mobi/webcall/</a> <a href="https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://jitsi.org/jitsi-meet/</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_Data_Association" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_Data_Association</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://hackers.town/@thegibson" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@thegibson</a> *nodds in agreement*<a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a> as a standard was never designed to be private...For that, better options exist, ranging from 1:1 messaging via <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> - <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a> to Group Chats like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zulip</a> and End-to-End Videocalling solutions like <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebCall</a>...

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