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holga<p>In which i write a short letter to <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.matrix.org/@matthew" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>matthew</span></a></span> highlighting key architectural issues of decentralized secure messaging covering <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a>, <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> / <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://lobste.rs/s/muk05v/reflections_on_matrix_criticism_over#c_1sijfo" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">lobste.rs/s/muk05v/reflections</span><span class="invisible">_on_matrix_criticism_over#c_1sijfo</span></a></p>
Delta Chat<p>We do not aim for <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> to be another social media app. No <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ai</span></a> summaries or suggestions. No public directory of contacts. No discovery via outside identifiers (mobile phone or email). Just you and your contacts privately messaging, in a solid simple user interface on all platforms. End-to-End encryption enforced on two layers. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> relays know and retain nothing, no content or metadata. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>webxdc</span></a> apps allow for custom interactions on top of chats.</p><p>Contributors and donations welcome!</p>
Blake Leonard<p><span>I think the biggest thing I want in </span><a href="https://infosec.town/tags/DeltaChat" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a><span> is a "unified inbox" where, unless I specifically exclude it, chats for all of my profiles are listed. Any duplicate contacts would show the profile icon on the list, and if I have multiple accounts in the same group for some reason, it would let me switch between them in the composer.<br><br>Seems like it would be rather simple? There's probably some implementation detail I'm missing.<br><br></span><span>(For a more advanced implementation: you'd be able to start with one easy unified inbox, and make other unified inboxes if you need to, selecting and deselecting as you see fit. Mostly the idea would be you can have multiple personal ones, multiple work ones, maybe a few for volunteer groups: maybe some of them use an online name, maybe you have a deadname on one profile and a chosen name on another, maybe you have individual profiles for each group you join... So you might have your personal ones grouped, your work ones grouped, and your volunteer ones grouped... but for most people, myself included, a singular unified inbox with exclusion should work just fine!)</span></p>
Thibaut<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Cnoceda" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Cnoceda</span></a></span> explains his way of using <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> and org-mode for collecting things on the go:<br><a href="https://cnoceda.com/tecnologia/posts/20250615T191346--delta-chat-and-org-mode__blog_tecnologia.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">cnoceda.com/tecnologia/posts/2</span><span class="invisible">0250615T191346--delta-chat-and-org-mode__blog_tecnologia.html</span></a></p><p>He adapts the deltachat inbox bot to his needs, just like the free software gods intended. Great stuff!</p><p><a href="https://toot.io/tags/orgmode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>orgmode</span></a> <a href="https://toot.io/tags/emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>emacs</span></a> <a href="https://toot.io/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a></p>
🌴 Seph 💭 👾<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://tiggi.es/users/xoagray" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>xoagray</span></a></span> Yeah, that's what they recommend these days, use their ChatMail server or one of the ones available on the web, I think its slightly more secure than using email.</p><p>Hmm, thinking about it, <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.online/users/thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> do you support it?</p><p><a href="https://blog.taursnd.haus/search?tag=deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a></p>
Carlos Noceda Riva<p>Just published my post on DeltaChat and Orgmode ☕️ It’s long, but I felt it had to be this way. In the future I’ll be adding new features and will keep you posted.<br><a href="https://cnoceda.com/tecnologia/posts/20250615T191346--delta-chat-and-org-mode__blog_tecnologia.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">cnoceda.com/tecnologia/posts/2</span><span class="invisible">0250615T191346--delta-chat-and-org-mode__blog_tecnologia.html</span></a><br>Now let's go for a coffee at my favorite spot — I’ve earned it!<br>Have a great Sunday! 🌞</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/orgmode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>orgmode</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/productivity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>productivity</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>emacs</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TechBlog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TechBlog</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SundayVibes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SundayVibes</span></a></p>
F-Droid<p>This week in <a href="https://floss.social/tags/FDroid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FDroid</span></a> (TWIF) is live but late to toot:</p><p>* Slow updates? There's a reason, or 2️⃣ <br>* Don't be surveilled, engage in our research 🔭 <br>* Using <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Calyx" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Calyx</span></a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/CalyxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CalyxOS</span></a>? Read now! 💔 <br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> hits v2, <a href="https://floss.social/tags/ArcaneChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ArcaneChat</span></a> soon™<br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/NeoStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NeoStore</span></a> finally upgrades to Index-V2<br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/NewPipe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NewPipe</span></a> in your 🚗 ? Maybe...<br>* <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Wesnoth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wesnoth</span></a> is back 🐴 ⚔️ <br>&amp; 164 more updates<br>- 4 apps archived</p><p>Saturday reading break: <a href="https://f-droid.org/2025/08/07/twif.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">f-droid.org/2025/08/07/twif.ht</span><span class="invisible">ml</span></a></p>
Asta McCarthy<p>On <a href="https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/tags/why2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>why2025</span></a>? Join us in the <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> chatroom :blobgrin: <br><a href="https://wiki.why2025.org/Session:Delta_Chat_online_try-out" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">wiki.why2025.org/Session:Delta</span><span class="invisible">_Chat_online_try-out</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.pirateparty.be/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a></p>
Diana Alenay<p>Animada pel que he llegit per aquí, m'he baixat <a href="https://mastodont.cat/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a>. Aviam com va!</p>
spla<p>No hi ha res que pugui fer un administrador d'un servidor <a href="https://mastodont.cat/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> (<a href="https://mastodont.cat/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a>) per a desxifrar els missatges que passen a través del seu servidor. Els missatges es xifren en els dispositius dels usuaris, el servidor chatmail només fa de transport dels mateixos. I l'aplicació DeltaChat xifra tot per defecte, no és configurable, no es pot desactivar el xifrat.<br>Ningú pot demanar a un administrador d'un servidor chatmail els continguts dels missatges perquè no pot fer res de res. 💪</p>
Delta Chat<p>Signal and Matrix were founded in popular opposition to the email system but End-to-End encrypted instant messaging via emails works now, and reliably, with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> V2 app releases, and with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> relays forming a growing secure email network that minimizes metadata and enforces TLS and E2EE messaging.</p><p>You can't really argue with working code, can you?</p><p>Contrary to popular belief SMTP and DKIM and IMAP are no holy ingredients and can be improved upon btw. See eg <a href="https://github.com/chatmail/relay/issues/487" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/chatmail/relay/issu</span><span class="invisible">es/487</span></a></p>
DeltaTouch<p>DeltaTouch v2.9.0 is out, bringing the security upgrade as described in the Delta Chat blog <a href="https://delta.chat/en/2025-08-04-encryption-v2" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">delta.chat/en/2025-08-04-encry</span><span class="invisible">ption-v2</span></a></p><p>Some UI changes such as shortcuts to recently used apps in chats are still to be implemented in DeltaTouch, but all the security/encryption related points in the blog post apply to DeltaTouch as well.</p><p>Version numbering has been aligned with the official clients, see <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta/114972264530346684" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">chaos.social/@delta/1149722645</span><span class="invisible">30346684</span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/DeltaTouch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaTouch</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a></p>
Delta Chat<p>Several people noticed and wonder about our new <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> version numbering scheme: it changed for all apps! <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chatmail</span></a> Core rust library uses 2.X with incrementing X. And apps use 2.X.Y with Y being a numbered release for a core version. Therefore, any app release embeds the core library version which is helpful for understanding and debugging interoperability issues between clients. Others pointed out this is close to "pride versioning" ... We are fine with that :) <a href="https://pridever.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">pridever.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Nick<p>Anyone using the ArcaneChat Android app for Delta Chat?</p><p>I downloaded itvfrom F-Droid some time ago but looked on Google Play today and realised that the version numbers are completely different, even though both have been updated fairly regularly.</p><p>Anyone know why? I haven't yet contacted the developer to ask, but might do so out of curiosity.</p><p><a href="https://beige.party/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a></p>
Delta Chat<p>V2 <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> is rolling out after weeks of internal testing, a major milestone revising how end-to-end encryption works and bringing more beautiful contact and group profiles, direct access to chat-shared apps in the title bar and a "new email" action with setting a subject for those using a classic server. </p><p>Best of all, users and developers don't need to co-ordinate anything for upgrading to V2 despite the massive security rework behind the scenes :)</p><p><a href="https://delta.chat/en/2025-08-04-encryption-v2" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">delta.chat/en/2025-08-04-encry</span><span class="invisible">ption-v2</span></a></p>
jae[0]™pretty interesting. the 3-4 people i conduct emails with sporadically i moved to deltachat with. now my poor mutt is full of spam mails which are fun to read (sometimes) but not the same.<br><br><a class="hashtag" href="https://darkdork.dev/tag/deltachat" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a><br><br>you too can make email fun again. it's just a transport. use it! <br><br><a href="https://delta.chat/en/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://delta.chat/en/</a><br><br>if you need help setting up, let me know. also if you want to run your own chatmail/mail server, my dms are open
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Anyone who expects me to install <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862595629371002" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">yet another app</a> for their garbage can kindly <em>fuck off</em>!</p><ul><li>Fix your shit and give me a compelling reason to even consider making an account in the first place.</li></ul><p>I won't but seeing folks who actually take privacy serious and thus have their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cameras" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cameras</span></a> removed from their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> device struggle makes me fucking angry.</p><ul><li>By comparison: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> has actually good <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/support" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>support</span></a> and they don't ask for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> and allow for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the keys.</li></ul><p>Personally, I wished <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> had a plugin for like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Thunderbird</span></a> so that it can be used as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Chat</span></a> in it and sort the inbox. Would make it the superior solution for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/corporations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>corporations</span></a> that already have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/eMail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eMail</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Archival" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Archival</span></a> setup for legal compliance…</p>
Dusty<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://masto.ai/@stavvers" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>stavvers</span></a></span> even better yet: <a href="https://autistics.life/tags/Deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Deltachat</span></a></p>
Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunson<p>Got enough rice and beans/lentils? </p><p>Enough to feed not just your house but others, too? &amp; for how long? </p><p>In other words, what are you doing today to set yourself up to resist tomorrow? </p><p><a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Resilience" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Resilience</span></a> is an act of <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Resistance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Resistance</span></a> </p><p>What about off-grid communications? </p><p>Like <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/HamRadio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HamRadio</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/FRS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FRS</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/LoRa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LoRa</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Meshtastic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Meshtastic</span></a> &amp; encrypted messaging like <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Matrix</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> </p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://a.gup.pe/u/redstateinsurgents" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>redstateinsurgents</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/Resist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Resist</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/FuckICE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FuckICE</span></a> <a href="https://universeodon.com/tags/FuckFascists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FuckFascists</span></a></p>
Delta Chat<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mamot.fr/@atlza" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>atlza</span></a></span> De nombreuses familles (y compris celles avec de jeunes enfants sans smartphone) utilisent <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltachat</span></a> avec plaisir. Nous recommandons d'utiliser les relais de messagerie instantanée par défaut, de réunir tout le monde dans un groupe et de jouer à un jeu comme 2048. Aucun numéro de téléphone ni carte SIM n'est requis.</p>