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Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:<p>🧵 2/5 Further, the “native” connection to EWS/OWA within Thunderbird is only available in 140 when you enable a custom setting (search for “ews”). What you see in the new Account Hub will depend on whether that custom setting is enabled. </p><p><a href="https://federate.social/tags/thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>thunderbird</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/tb140" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tb140</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TbSync</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/EAS4TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EAS4TbSync</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/exchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exchange</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/ews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ews</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/owa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>owa</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/eas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eas</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>imap</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/pop3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pop3</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smtp</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/GraphAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GraphAPI</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard</span></a></p>
Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:<p>🧵 5/5 TbSync was a small challenge because, as has happened in the past with major Thunderbird updates, it was declared unsupported and automatically disabled by Thunderbird 140esr. Following the instructions in <a href="https://github.com/jobisoft/TbSync/issues/753#issuecomment-3051737579" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/jobisoft/TbSync/iss</span><span class="invisible">ues/753#issuecomment-3051737579</span></a> (file-based reinstall of TbSync and EAS-4-TbSync) resolves the issue for now.</p><p><a href="https://federate.social/tags/thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>thunderbird</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/tb140" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tb140</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TbSync</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/EAS4TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EAS4TbSync</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/exchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exchange</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/ews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ews</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/owa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>owa</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/eas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eas</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>imap</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/pop3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pop3</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smtp</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/GraphAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GraphAPI</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard</span></a></p>
Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:<p>🧵 3/5 Right now, Exchange requires add-ons to work. Usually this means TbSync or OWL. Each of these has its own set of features and limitations to consider. Account Hub will show you Exchange in two flavors… one says “add-on required” and the other doesn’t. It’s the latter one that is the native integration in experimental form at this time (and does email ONLY for now). </p><p><a href="https://federate.social/tags/thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>thunderbird</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/tb140" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tb140</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TbSync</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/EAS4TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EAS4TbSync</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/exchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exchange</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/ews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ews</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/owa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>owa</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/eas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eas</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>imap</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/pop3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pop3</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smtp</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/GraphAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GraphAPI</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard</span></a></p>
Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:<p>🧵 4/5 Until now, I have been using IMAP+SMTP, and TbSync for address books and calendars. After going through a few iterations, I have now settled on using Exchange (native, experimental) accounts (yes, plural) for email and sticking with TbSync for calendars and address books.</p><p><a href="https://federate.social/tags/thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>thunderbird</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/tb140" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tb140</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TbSync</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/EAS4TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EAS4TbSync</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/exchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exchange</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/ews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ews</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/owa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>owa</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/eas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eas</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>imap</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/pop3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pop3</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smtp</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/GraphAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GraphAPI</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard</span></a></p>
Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:<p>🧵 1/5 <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.ie/@padraig" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>padraig</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> Took a little searching but I am working again! Yay. The complexity is that which setup to use with Exchange can be legacy (POP3, IMAP+SMTP, EAS, EWS/OWA) or current Graph API. Thunderbird 140 supports all of the legacy API but not yet Graph API.</p><p><a href="https://federate.social/tags/thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>thunderbird</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/tb140" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tb140</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TbSync</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/EAS4TbSync" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EAS4TbSync</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/exchange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exchange</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/ews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ews</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/owa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>owa</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/eas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>eas</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/imap" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>imap</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/pop3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pop3</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smtp</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/GraphAPI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GraphAPI</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>WhyIsMicrosoftSoHard</span></a></p>
AI6YR Ben<p>This is possibly SMTP error 552 🤪 </p><p>"552 Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation"</p><p><a href="https://m.ai6yr.org/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smtp</span></a></p>
Carlos 🔻<p>Free m'a bloqué les ports <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/IMAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMAP</span></a> et <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/SMTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMTP</span></a>, et refuse de les réouvrir. Je vous raconte.</p><p>Je fais un peu de <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/autoh%C3%A9bergement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>autohébergement</span></a> sur mon serveur, et derniièrement, j'y ai installé <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/docker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>docker</span></a>-mailserver</p><p>je configure <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>thunderbird</span></a> , tout fonctionne nickel, et au bout d'un moment, impossible d'envoyer des emails ou d'en recevoir<br>Il se trouve que <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Free" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Free</span></a> a bloqué le port 25<br>En 5G par contre, pas de probléme</p><p>Et le support a rejeté ma demande</p><p>Please <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/retoot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>retoot</span></a> en espérant atteindre quelqu'un de Free 🙏</p><p>Pb résolu ⤵️</p>
Jonathan Kamens 86 47<p><a href="https://federate.social/tags/tfw" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tfw</span></a> You have to email a government agency, explain in excruciating detail why your mail server (and any other that enforces <a href="https://federate.social/tags/DMARC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DMARC</span></a>) can't receive certain emails they're sending that fail their DMARC policy, and then cross your fingers and pray that the tier 1 customer service rep who reads your email forwards it to someone who can fix the problem AND said someone actually takes the time to do it. *sigh*<br><a href="https://federate.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smtp</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/SysAdmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SysAdmin</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/MailAdmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MailAdmin</span></a></p>
Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Roundcube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Roundcube</span></a> 1.5.10 (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LTS</span></a>) has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Webmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Webmail</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mail</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IMAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMAP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SMTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMTP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LDAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LDAP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Managesieve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Managesieve</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PHP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PHP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MariaDB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MariaDB</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MySQL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MySQL</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PostgreSQL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PostgreSQL</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SQLite" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SQLite</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OracleDB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OracleDB</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MSSQL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MSSQL</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LongTermSupport" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LongTermSupport</span></a>) <a href="https://roundcube.net/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">roundcube.net/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Roundcube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Roundcube</span></a> 1.6.11 (stable) has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Webmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Webmail</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mail</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IMAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IMAP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SMTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMTP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/LDAP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LDAP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Managesieve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Managesieve</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PHP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PHP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MariaDB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MariaDB</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MySQL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MySQL</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/PostgreSQL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PostgreSQL</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SQLite" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SQLite</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OracleDB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OracleDB</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MSSQL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MSSQL</span></a>) <a href="https://roundcube.net/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">roundcube.net/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
mirabilos<p>Remember the threads¹² about <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/letsencrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LetsEncrypt</span></a> removing a crucial key usage from certificates issued by them in predictive obedience to their premium sponsor Google?</p><p>We were at first concerned about <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMTP</span></a>. While I had lived through this problem with <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/startssl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StartSSL</span></a> by <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/startcom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>StartCom</span></a> back in 2011, I only had a vague recollection of Jabber but recalled in detail that it broke server-to-server SMTP verification (whether the receiving server acted on it or just documented it).</p><p>Well, turns out someone now reported that it <em>indeed</em> breaks <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> entirely: <a href="https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/do-not-remove-tls-client-auth-eku/237427/66" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/do-not-remove-tls-client-auth-eku/237427/66</a></p><p>This means that <strong>it <em>will</em> soon no longer be possible <em>at all</em> to operate Jabber (XMPP) servers</strong> because the servers use the operating system’s CA certificate bundle for verification, which generally follows the major browsers’ root stores, which has requirements from the CA/Browser forum who apparently don’t care about anything else than the webbrowser, and so no CA whose root certificate is in that store <strong>will be <em>allowed</em> to</strong> issue certificates suitable for Jabber/XMPP server-to-server communication while these CAs are the only ones trusted by those servers.</p><p>So, yes, Google’s requirement change <em><strong>is</strong></em> after all breaking Jabber entirely. <em>Ein Schelm, wer Böses dabei denkt.</em></p><p>While <a href="https://nerdcert.eu/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://nerdcert.eu/</a> by <span class="h-card"><a href="https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jwildeboer</span></a></span> would in theory help, it’s not existent yet, and there’s not just the question of <em>when</em> it will be included in operating systems’ root CA stores but <em>whether</em> it will be included in them at all.</p><p>Google’s policy has no listed contact point, and the CA/B forum isn’t something mere mortals can complain to, so I’d appreciate if someone who can, and who has significant skills to argument this in English and is willing to, to bring it to them.</p><p>① mine: <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/@mirabilos/statuses/01JV8MDA4P895KK6F91SV7WET8" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://toot.mirbsd.org/@mirabilos/statuses/01JV8MDA4P895KK6F91SV7WET8</a><br>② jwildeboer’s: <a href="https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/114516238307785904" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/114516238307785904</a></p>
marc0sAs of today, <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tenak.net/tag/gmail" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#gmail</a> seems to be rejecting all emails from my server because of its "low reputation". All MX tools online say my server is OK (SPF, DMARC), my IP isn't in any blacklist, and I already have set up the TXT DNS records for Google's Postmaster.<br><br>Any idea on how to proceed?<br><br>These big providers are a PITA for self hosters 🤬<br><br><a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tenak.net/tag/smtp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#smtp</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tenak.net/tag/spam" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#spam</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tenak.net/tag/mx" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mx</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tenak.net/tag/fedihelp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FediHelp</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.tenak.net/tag/selfhosting" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#selfhosting</a>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>Maintenant, «&nbsp;Auto-hébergez une messagerie e-mail qui délivre&nbsp;» par les gens de <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/Galae" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Galae</span></a>. </p><p>Pourquoi auto-héberger ? Parmi les réponses&nbsp;: «&nbsp;parce que c'est possible&nbsp;»</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/JDLL2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>JDLL2025</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/courrier%C3%89lectronique" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>courrierÉlectronique</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/SMTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMTP</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/souverainet%C3%A9Num%C3%A9rique" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>souverainetéNumérique</span></a></p>
🆘Bill Cole 🇺🇦<p><a href="https://toad.social/tags/Spam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Spam</span></a> folders are problematic in their basic conception. <br><a href="https://toad.social/tags/SMTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMTP</span></a> <a href="https://toad.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>email</span></a> by design does not fail silently. Dropping messages into a repository where users rarely look, along with mostly garbage, is tantamount to failing silently. </p><p>Reject mail you believe to be spam, live in SMTP. If you have too many false positives, fix *THAT* instead of making more arcane compromises and expecting users to understand the nuance of one or another flawed authentication tool breaking. <a href="https://hear-me.social/@Jerry/114524150431603970" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">hear-me.social/@Jerry/11452415</span><span class="invisible">0431603970</span></a></p>
Peter N. M. Hansteen<p>From the archives, to ease your boredom: </p><p>"RFC7505 Means Yes, Your Domain Can Refuse to Handle Mail. Please Leave Us a TXT If You Do." (from 2021) <a href="https://nxdomain.no/~peter/rfc7505_means_yes_you_can_refuse_to_handle_mail.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">nxdomain.no/~peter/rfc7505_mea</span><span class="invisible">ns_yes_you_can_refuse_to_handle_mail.html</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>email</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/spam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>spam</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/antispam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>antispam</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/rfc7505" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>rfc7505</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smtp</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/dns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>dns</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/cybercrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybercrime</span></a></p>
mirabilos<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://polymaths.social/@rl_dane" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>rl_dane</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@ShinjiLE" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>ShinjiLE</span></a></span> if you or someone else wants to help argue, the thread is at <a href="https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/do-not-remove-tls-client-auth-eku/237427" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/do-not-remove-tls-client-auth-eku/237427</a> (Discourse, so JS webbrowser), I’m exhausted.</p><p><a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/letsencrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LetsEncrypt</span></a> <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/ssl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSL</span></a> <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/tls" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TLS</span></a> <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/certificates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>certificates</span></a> <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/x509" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>X509</span></a> <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/x509v3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>X509v3</span></a> <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/sendmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sendmail</span></a> <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMTP</span></a> <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> <a href="https://toot.mirbsd.org/tags/jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a></p>
Peter N. M. Hansteen<p>OpenSMTPD 7.7.0p0 released <a href="https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250514052136" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">undeadly.org/cgi?action=articl</span><span class="invisible">e;sid=20250514052136</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>openbsd</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensmtpd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>opensmtpd</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smtp</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>email</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/mail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mail</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>security</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>freesoftware</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/libresoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>libresoftware</span></a></p>
Jonathan Kamens 86 47<p>I've ranted before about <a href="https://federate.social/tags/DMARC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DMARC</span></a> and whether it's worth private mail-server admins implementing.<br>Today's rant: the reference implementation, <a href="https://github.com/trusteddomainproject/OpenDMARC" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/trusteddomainprojec</span><span class="invisible">t/OpenDMARC</span></a>, has been abandoned for ~4 years, and its maintainers, <a href="http://www.trusteddomain.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://www.</span><span class="">trusteddomain.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a>, are completely AWOL.<br>Linux distro maintainers have had to do proxy maintenance themselves, picking and choosing patches from pull requests submitted to the project to add to their distributions.<br>This sucks.<br><a href="https://federate.social/tags/FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/SMTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMTP</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/OpenDMARC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OpenDMARC</span></a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/TrustedDomainProject" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TrustedDomainProject</span></a></p>
Peter N. M. Hansteen<p>I interpret the following</p><p>Apr 20 18:38:09 skapet spamd[52874]: (GREY) 117.53.153.22: &lt;&gt; -&gt; &lt;spfilter-2.sel01.mschosting.com-1745167076-testing@ehtrib.org&gt;</p><p>As a sign there are still, er, individuals out there who think SMTP callbacks were a good idea. </p><p>Please have them read "Twenty-plus years on, SMTP callbacks are still pointless and need to die" (2017) <a href="https://nxdomain.no/~peter/twenty-plus_years_on_smtp_callbacks_are_still_pointless.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">nxdomain.no/~peter/twenty-plus</span><span class="invisible">_years_on_smtp_callbacks_are_still_pointless.html</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/spam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>spam</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/spamd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>spamd</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/smtp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smtp</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/callbacks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>callbacks</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/email" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>email</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/mail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mail</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/antispam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>antispam</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/cybercrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cybercrime</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/shitheads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>shitheads</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/imbeciles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>imbeciles</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/incompetence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>incompetence</span></a></p>
Jan Schaumann<p>System Administration</p><p>Week 8, HTTPS &amp; TLS</p><p>After discussing HTTP in the previous week and seeing how we used STARTTLS in the context of <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SMTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SMTP</span></a>, we are now quickly reviewing HTTPS, TLS, and the WebPKI. While we don't have a video segment for this, here are slides, including this handy diagram illustrating the CSR process:</p><p><a href="https://stevens.netmeister.org/615/08-https.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">stevens.netmeister.org/615/08-</span><span class="invisible">https.pdf</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SysAdmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SysAdmin</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SRE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SRE</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DevOps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DevOps</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/TLS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TLS</span></a></p>