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Distance per volume (mpg or km/L) is kind of a lousy way to reason about fuel economy; a better system is to take the reciprocal: gallons per mile, or liters per km.

(Here's an accessible argument for why: popsci.com/technology/gallons-)

But volume / distance = length³ / length = length² = area. That means we can measure fuel economy using area.

For example, my car gets about 0.08mm². That’s not a rate. It’s just an area (in the rough vicinity of the period at the end of this sentence).

Huh?

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Popular Science · Forget miles per gallon—here's the best metric for measuring a car's efficiencyThere's a smarter way to measure a car's fuel efficiency, and it has to do with gallons burned per 100 miles. Here's where to find it.

@inthehands

There are a lot of very weird units, when you stare too hard at them. For example, the Hubble Constant is (70 km/s)/Mpc -- that is, a speed per Megaparsec, which checks out. but the distances technically cancel out, so the result is a *frequency.*

youtube.com/watch?v=kkfIXUjkYq

Pollenated Dan :Schwerified:

@inthehands

I'd make the case that it's not really the same "distance" being cancelled out. even though they're both the same kind of unit, one is a distance related to the galaxy's motion and the other is a distance *to* the galaxy.

I think the same reasoning would apply for the lengths composing fuel volume and the distance of a car traveled.

@thedansimonson
You’re the second reply to mention that video!

I hear your argument about lengths coming from different places, but…dimensional analysis doesn’t care. And per my 2nd post (and the video), there is in fact a perfectly reasonable physical interpretation that units the lengths.

@inthehands I agree about the sweeping -- I considered that too. it's a neat way to think about it, but you're still reducing one of the lengths out of existence, despite both lengths maintaining some physical reality.

ultimately, I think this is a place where dimensional analysis bombs. the math-language interface is often most distorted by the ambiguity of language.

@inthehands @thedansimonson Uhhh Chemist here to say dimensional analysis *does* care (sort of), which is why I recommend my students label not only the unit but also what it's measuring (usually that's which substance we're talking about). That's not to say your efficiency-as-an-area result is meaningless, just that I don't think every last thing that "cancels" units actually cancels out conceptually