I still use a Firefox clone on my /e/OS phone @gael (first Mull, now Ironfox).
I hate the #manifestv3 approach chrome is taking, and cannot browse without a proper working uBlock Origin.... Hence I am not using the built-in forked chromium browser.
I still use a Firefox clone on my /e/OS phone @gael (first Mull, now Ironfox).
I hate the #manifestv3 approach chrome is taking, and cannot browse without a proper working uBlock Origin.... Hence I am not using the built-in forked chromium browser.
Mozilla’s approach to Manifest V3: What’s different and why it matters for extension users
Mozilla’s approach to Manifest V3: What’s different and... #firefox #mozilla #manifestv3 #firefoxhttps://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-manifest-v3-adblockers/
#Google #Chrome disables #uBlock Origin for some in #ManifestV3 rollout
For those unaware, Manifest V3 is Chrome's latest extension specification and is designed to limit extension access to user network requests, block developers from utilizing remote content, and improve overall performance.
If you're affected by Google's #ManifestV2 deprecation, you can switch to Manifest V3-supported extensions, such as the #uBlockOriginLite, which #uBlockOrigin developer has created.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/google-chrome-disables-ublock-origin-for-some-in-manifest-v3-rollout/
uBlock Origin is dead for Chrome, but ad blockers live on | PCWorld
You can read more about each of these extensions in PCWorld’s rundown of alternative ad-blockers, but there’s also a fifth option: switching to Firefox. It’s the one major browser not based on Chromium, the open-source code powering Chrome and browsers like Opera, Brave, and Vivaldi, etc. Accordingly, the full-fat version of uBlock Origin is still available. In fact, it’s the only version, because Mozilla’s missteps caused the death of uBlock Origin Lite. (Sigh.)
Hey y'all.
It's time.
At this point I feel like we should bring back splash pages, saying which browser it was optimised for.
Ad-Blocking, then. The literal difference between constant annoying internet harassment and privacy invasion, and a peaceful web experience.
Google have played funny-buggers with Chromium's extension format so Manifest v3 is here to effectively castrate all of your fave Ad-Blocking tools.
I've been testing Vivaldi browser this morning to see how it's own in-built Ad-Block works. Vivaldi are supporting Manifest v2 for the time being but only until mid 2025 when the Chromium code for v2 will be entirely removed.
Vivaldi's own Ad-Block solution has been described as less-capable but what does that mean in real terms? Does it offer the same level of protection as purpose-specific extensions like uBlock Origin? Is it even capable of offering that level?
I found the following web site that gives me an lovely visual representation of ad-blocking with a list of anything blocked and anything that slips the dragnet.
https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock.html
Let's do some informal testing:
Vivaldi Ad-Block OFF | UBlock Origin OFF = 4%
That's to be expected. Truly appalling, the raw unfiltered web. Every market-store vendor in the world up in your face selling things at you.
Vivaldi Ad-Block OFF | UBlock Origin ON = 99%
Yep, also expected. This is why people swear by uBlock Origin. All of that advertising and tracking nonsense annihilated. NB: That 1% is the test dev admitting there may be other Javascript web pages it doesn't specifically cover with their test.
Now here's the meat of this post:
Vivaldi Ad-Block ON | UBlock Origin OFF = 74%
That's actually reasonable, if not all-encompassing. The Test's own score-banding lists this as a good result. However, a glance down at some of the blocking reveals big names like Google and Amazon are slipping through the net. I personally wouldn't accept this.
Luckily, though, you can import your own block lists to Vivaldi's own default lists. The Toolz test itself lists a couple that they claim will plug the gaps in the testing. Vivaldi's forums linked me to a couple more. Four url imports later (importing the urls rather than text files means they'll update automatically)
Vivaldi Ad-Block ON with Imported Lists | UBlock Origin OFF = 99%
99% again, natively inside Vivaldi without uBlock Origin! That's really great to see although there are tonnes of caveats around this, for example it is only ONE test that might not test for everything needing blocked; it's far from a definitive finding so please don't take this as recommendation just yet.
Vivaldi have said they'll improve the Ad-block in the future as we approach v2 shut-down, and I think it's currently missing Dynamic Blocking which is a bit of a biggie, but my tests above are still very encouraging for the plucky Norwegians. I'll post the url sources in the post below. Feel free to chime in with your own thoughts and experiences!
#AdBlock #Vivaldi #Browsers #Software #ManifestV3
Small reminder to use a non-chromium browser as of yesterday. Ublock Origin will keep working that way.
So that's that: Firefox is now the only useful browser in the world.
Meanwhile, Google controls nearly the entire web browser market, far more than Microsoft ever did at the height of the original browser wars.
Using Chromium based products makes you less safe.
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/browsing/google-pulls-the-plug-on-ublock-origin
Who the hell cares whether your browser uses #ManifestV2 or #ManifestV3? What the average user would rather know is that uBlock Origin will NOT work as effectively with the NEXT update of your Google Chrome.
The marketing push should be "Use Firefox if you want to continue using #adblockers like #UBO."
Simple, straightforward, and to-the-point.
Your messaging should ONLY ever be about how it impacts the end-user and nothing else.
Thank you for coming to my #InsteadTalk.
Und hier nochmal eine Erinnerung, warum wir von #Google unabhängige Browser brauchen: #uBlockOrigin, was die Browsernutzung erträglich macht, fliegt nun wegen der lang angekündigten Umstellung auf #ManifestV3 endgültig aus #Chrome / #Chromium raus. #uBlockLite ist leider komplett kastriert und kann nur rudimentär Werbung blockieren.
#Firefox unterstützt weiter #ManifestV2 und ist die Empfehlung des uBlock Origin Entwicklers gorhill. #Librewolf hat das Add-on vorinstalliert.
Google Chrome warns uBlock Origin may soon be disabled
As it was written, so it begins.
There is no Manifest v3 compatible uBlock Origin. It is simply not possible.
Firefox has its problems and its controversies and plenty of dumb decisions, but Manifest v3 is not one of them. Going forward, some variant of Firefox will be your only bet if you want robust ad-blocking extensions.
A PiHole can only get you so far. Unless you want to run a full traffic intercepting proxy at home with SSL decryption, you need something at the application layer.
For everyone that is forced to use Chrome even after #ManifestV3 it seems like there's a way around this. So AdBlockers should work just fine after the Update.
I'm curious how Google will react to this.
https://gist.github.com/velzie/053ffedeaecea1a801a2769ab86ab376
Are you irritated that #Google is bricking ad blockers with the new Manifest V3? Don't worry, you can still be in control of your browsing with @Vivaldi.
Vivaldi's ad blockers won't suffer adverse effects. You're still in control!
https://vivaldi.com/blog/manifest-v3-webrequest-and-ad-blockers/
@LilahTovMoon Feel free to share my infographic (no attribution needed). Let family, friends and colleagues know that now is the time to switch to Firefox.
Add this link (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new) when sharing.
Google will start cracking down on adblocking extensions next week.
「 Google, which makes about 77 percent of its revenue from advertising, has not published a serious explanation as to why Manifest V3 limits content filtering, and it's not clear how that aligns with the goals of "improving the security, privacy, performance and trustworthiness" 」
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/google-starts-deprecating-older-more-capable-chrome-extensions-next-week/
FWIW @Vivaldi has committed to putting in the work to keep manifest V2 support.
The whole #Google #Chrome #Manifestv3 fiasco reminded me...
Is there a good way to run #ublockorigin on #android? Or something like it?
And related, as I happen to prefer the #chromium UX over the one offered by #firefox .. is there a Chromium fork which will retain v2?
Boosts appreciated
In June, #enshittification to come for #Chrome (and its derivatives) : #Google's #ManifestV3 will take effect.
- #AdBlockers will be limited to 30,000 rules … no more
- They will no longer be able to update themselves daily, but only when new versions of extensions are published (which Google sometimes takes up to 3 weeks to validate)
To sum up, #AdBlocking extensions will always be late on websites, and in any case will not have enough rules to cover all sites.
› https://www.techradar.com/pro/how-chromes-manifest-v3-will-change-the-game-for-ad-blockers
In anticipation of the impending #adblocker crackdown next June, I'm thinking about getting my #stream VODs on #Peertube, or something less hostile to users. Luckily I've been backing up my streams since the second one I ever did; if you're a streamer, you ought to do the same. I'll keep uploading to #YouTube, but I want to be ready to jump ship the second that ship starts to list #manifestV3