Die Dynamik der (Morpho-)Syntax des Deutschen in der „Vertikale“: Perfektexpansion und Abfolge pronominaler Objekte
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Strange to not have any #Labov quotes to share that I find poignant despite being the giant of #sociolinguistics and despite how much of his work I've read. He always struck me as a workhorse with a lot of interesting method ideas but not someone terribly concerned with #socialtheory where one's writing might become more touching. His legacy and influence will undoubtedly persist for a very long time still.
As an American, "pissed up" is a new one for me. This was how someone on Discord described the #British crowd at the recent #TaylorCatterall fight. I assume this comes from "taking the piss".
#Relativepronouns are weird. "People that think" feels pretty natural to me but "people who think" is probably the standard in a construction like this one found on reddit.
(BTW, both fighters are too good to meaningfully compare anyway.)
Spotted "furriner" (i.e., #foreigner) in #Marvel #Avengers c1966, implying a pronunciation maybe like [ˈfʌɹ.ɪ.nəɹ]. Reminds me a lot of the #SouthPark "they took our jobs" joke. There's a clear #enregisterment happening here, though I'm not sure it's for a real #English variety as I don't specialize in English #vowels. Any ideas?
Spotted in #TalesFromTheCrypt c1950, not just #prodrop but auxiliary drop? In both sentences, "will" is omitted. I'm particularly fond of pro-drop phrases myself, but I don't think I'd omit an auxiliary.
In #TalesFromtheCrypt c1950: the phrase "any too happy" rather than (what would be the equivalent for me) "all too happy". And indeed, there was a spike in the former over the latter in #American #literature around this time (https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=any+too+happy%2Call+that+happy&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-US-2019&smoothing=3).
Spotted on #sociology reddit: an "is regarded period" construction. The absence of "well" feels incredibly awkward to me, but apparently the version without "well" was not only more common in older literature but is still more common today (https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=is+well+regarded.%2Cis+regarded.&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-US-2019&smoothing=3).
(Also, I have no idea what the answer to this question is.)
In #Spiderman c1968, Peter uses several #synonyms for #money: scratch, long green, and folding stuff. I'm not personally familiar with any of these, but there are obviously many others we could mention, which raises the question: Why are there so many words for money? This is common with #taboowords, but is money considered taboo in some way?
To "throw a rock in a haystack". This is a new #saying for me, and I can't find any references to it in Google books or on the web in general. #Crawford is from #Omaha, so maybe it's a saying in #Nebraska considering the state's #agriculture activities. It implies to me that one is making a commotion to get whatever it is one wants to come out and talk.
In #Xmen c1966, #Cyclops says "what say we" rather than "what do you say we". My first impression was that this sounds antiquated, and indeed, the latter has become far more frequent over time in American #literature (https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=what+say+we%2Cwhat+do+you+say+we&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-US-2019&smoothing=3).
Spotted in #Xmen c1966: "shall waken". We can suppose this in variation with "awaken" and take into account #style to an extent if we compare only when preceded by "shall". Unsurprisingly, "awaken" has always been more common in American #literature when #intransitive (https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=shall+waken%2Cshall+awaken&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-US-2019&smoothing=3), although these sort of pairs where the standard #transitive version is used intransitively could be interesting to look at further
I don't know anything about #English as it's spoken in #Oklahoma, so I was a bit surprised to find "peoples" and "people's" in the speech of this man. (Me and my wife just got a #uromastyx #lizard, BTW, so if anyone has good tips, lemme know!)
Which #pronunciation do you use for #crayon and why are the others wrong?
#Transcribing #interviews where the only #annotations are #pronouns so I'm #annotating as I go. So slow that I'm not sure this is better than listening back a second time to do the annotations instead.
A recent #Simpsons episode had a good example of #enregisterment of the #southernvowelshift in #Texas: https://youtu.be/yqZ3nyYUwsY
Just learned that "tarp" is short for "tarpaulin". Who on Earth says that latter?? As far as #English #literature is concerned, almost no one these days: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=tarp%2Ctarpaulin&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-US-2019&smoothing=3
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Ok #corpus people who use #ELAN, how do you store #metadata on the participants you're #transcribing? Seems the devs suggest CMDI files, but that seems overly complicated (unless there's some benefit for exporting afterward).
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@grvsmth @maitxinha @linguistics It wouldn't be hard to quantify for the features that have been studied -- just count how many times the conclusion has been that it's a change from below vs not -- but it would be difficult to generalize to all #languagechange from there since #languagevariation/#sociolonguistic studies pretty much never use random sampling. But when the conclusion is the same for feature after feature in community after community, it becomes easier to say the claim is accurate
#ZipfsLaw makes it hard to study #lexical #variation in #language, but some features would be difficult even with very large #corpora due to being homophonous with a more frequent feature. One I've come across lately is "I hate it" where the #demonstrative "that" is more common, e.g. in response to seeing a scary clown image.