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XMPP is pronounced 'ʤæb.əʳ 🙂

To me,
#XMPP is the universal communication protocol, used for #IoT, #WebRTC, gaming, social, and #instantMessaging.
#Jabber is the latter in an open and federated network.
#CiscoJabber™ is a product by Cisco.
Zimpy is many things, but don't look it up in #UrbanDictionary!

(Btw. I fiercely advocate naming #freeSoftware projects, children, cats, companies, everything, after #UUIDs. No more unambiguousness, no more #trademark issues.)

Considering that both #XMPP and #Matrix re-invented #decentralized communication while #email was already there, makes #deltachat more interesting.

The fact that DC didn't invent a new protocol for #InstantMessaging and just used the protocol which was already there, and also that how far has it gone, is mind blowing.

At first when I was chatting with @treefit, I already was developing a Matrix client(#chooj) for #KaiOS and it was the only decentralized IM which I was using and investing resources into. I was skeptical but then I thought it would be a good idea to invest into DeltaChat, as well as Matrix. His argument, of course, wasn't good. He was arguing that we need multiple options in the case one of decentralized IMs fail. However this convinced me to give DC a try.

But now, I see that DC has very unique advantages no other messenger has. Their moto is "playing the long term" game. Unlike Matrix which suddenly exploded, DC moves very slowly. As an advantage, DC is much more consistent, hassle free, has less bugs(in my experience) and has better UI/UX than many Matrix clients. But it has got several disadvantages. Matrix has tons more features which DC hasn't got or has added them just recently such as editing messages and reactions. And it is not yet suitable for public groups, like the ones we've got in the Matrix network.

Overall, if you want secure chat with friends or family or other people you trust, DeltaChat is a very good option and the experience is very good. And I haven't seen something like #webxdc in any other IM. However if you want something like #Discord guilds for a community, Matrix is the way to go.

BTW, DC currently lacks funding, thanks to what #Trump did with #OpenTechnologyFund(#OTF). If you can help in anyway, financial or otherwise, it will be extra valuable at this point.

Edit:

BTW, here are websites of webxdc and DC:

delta.chat
webxdc.org/

Edit2: Make sure to check WebXDC, apps shared in #P2P deltachat groups or DMs.

#IM#FOSS#Messenger

Lately I'm having issues with #Signal. Messages are delivered up to 2 hours later. It looks like it happens more often on mobile networks compared to WiFi, but delays are experienced on the latter too.

What would be a valid IM app alternative? No 🇺🇸 products preferably.

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I've created an account on the matrix.org instant messaging server!

Here are a few features:
- Linux (desktop) and UbuntuTouch (phone) operating system support
- End-to-end encryption
- No phone number or email required
- Decentralized servers and clients
- Open protocols
- Open source implementations of servers and clients (maybe also foss?)

My username is: neptune22:matrix.org

#InstantMessaging / #Messengers picks of the day:

➡️ @delta - Free open source end-to-end encrypted chat app powered by email

➡️ @joinjabber - Helping non-techy people sign up on XMPP/Jabber

➡️ @xmpp - Designs & maintains the XMPP federated open messaging standard

➡️ @briar - E2EE P2P messaging app, works online through Tor & locally on Bluetooth

➡️ @Jami - E2EE P2P calling & messaging app

➡️ @matrix - Federated FOSS communications platform

➡️ @signalapp - Centralised messaging app

🧵 1/3

Putting a bunch of bridges into Matrix to try and centralize my messaging is really giving me Trillian/Pidgin vibes. :neofox_what:​ Except Trillian/Pidgin were way more straightforward (no shade to Matrix, it's not really what it's meant for).

It's depressing thinking back to when XMPP was super promising and companies were on board to implement it. Instead of that happening, they all teamed up to crush it and messaging has stayed the same level of fragmentation (or, depending on how you look at it, gotten worse) in the meantime.